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In general, I don't even consider the stuff sold in store mayonnaise - if ever there was a need for what you can call stuff. You can make your own (real) mayo p

In general, I don't even consider the stuff sold in store mayonnaise - if ever there was a need for what you can call stuff. You can make your own (real) mayo pretty easily, an egg yolk, some mustard and vegetable oil, I like to add a few drops of lemon or vinegar. Get ready to have your mind blown by much better taste and an inviting yellow color rather than the crap that's mass produced. It's also a good way to realize how much oil is in mayo and to wonder how your 90lb grandma was able to whisk for hours but your arm hurts after a 25 seconds...

LeifCarrotson 5y ago
If you want to see a scientific approach to making good mayo, I recommend this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjw2AD8VSfo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjw2AD8VSfo The author does shill out for a VPN company, but his approach to cooking and the science behind the lecithin emulsifier that makes mayonnaise work is extremely interesting!
- felipellrocha 5y ago
  > The author does shill out for a VPN company That's a weird way of saying "trying to make a living"
  - margalabargala 5y ago
    Finding new and creative ways to stick advertisements in front of people in ways that they can't easily avoid is indeed a way that some people try to make a living. It just happens to be a way of making a living of which many people, on HN and off, have a negative opinion. There have been plenty of poorly regarded professions throughout history that still drew people because they were paid, despite the negative publicity. Tax collectors in Ancient Rome were also just trying to make a living.
    - kcplate 5y ago
      > Finding new and creative ways to stick advertisements in front of people in ways that they can't easily avoid is indeed a way that some people try to make a living. In other words “Pretty much all media, everywhere”
      - margalabargala 5y ago
        Strong disagree. Almost all music (distinct from "music platforms") does not contain any advertising. Many movies contain product placements, but many more do not. TV shows frequently have ads embedded, but platforms like HBO do not show ads. Almost all paintings, sculptures, or other art media do not contain ads, excepting those created specifically for the advertising industry. Considering the totality of media created by humanity to date, I would suspect that advertising is present in a small minority.
        kcplate 5y ago
        Music - concert shirts, terrestrial radio. Even streaming paid streaming services slip in sponsorship mentions. HBO - Owned by AT&T and WarnerMedia, literally WM has $8B in rev much from their platforms and brands that do sell advertising. Paintings and sculpture - you think museums aren’t an advertisement in of themselves? You don’t think cities and communities don’t subsidize those for cultural reasons do you? It’s a draw. But sure, some “art” is not advertisement saturated, but make no mistake—the organizations that distribute it or provide access to it..are filthy with it.
        margalabargala 5y ago
        IMO calling museums advertisements for a city/community is a stretch of the definition for the purpose of this discussion- like yeah, it could technically be considered that way, but it's so broad that it sort of renders the whole point moot. > the organizations that distribute it or provide access to it..are filthy with it. I think your point there is the crux of the whole thing for me. I see a big distinction between a piece of media that has an advertisement literally embedded within it by the creator and presented as part of the finished whole (example, a podcast where they shill some service or other) versus an ad-free piece of media where some other third party distributor shows advertisements alongside the media. The podcast in question further up the thread falls into the first bucket, while, for example, a hard news piece by a journalist that is then displayed on a website with banner ads is quantitatively different. In the latter, the piece of media exists, and can be experienced in its totality with all ads taken away, while in the podcast example, the ads are inextricable from the whole without altering the work itself.
  - LeifCarrotson 5y ago
    I absolutely support Alex trying to make a living - I bought his cookbook! I know he has a Patreon and branded gear. I really hope he gets advertising deals from companies whose products he uses to share things he genuinely believes in. But no one really believes in scammy Youtube-advertising VPNs...right?
- sithadmin 5y ago
  I don't fault Alex for shilling the same high-value ads that every other successful Youtuber does. The guy is quite dedicated to making relatively difficult or obscure techniques accessible to home cook enthusiasts, and really puts a lot of work into churning out high quality content. If continuing to have access to new content from Alex means putting up with some fake praise for a VPN service, SquareSpace, etc...so be it.
  - trvz 5y ago
    > I don't fault Alex for shilling the same high-value ads that every other successful Youtuber does. Just because everyone else is doing a wrong thing, doesn't make it ok if you do it, too.
    - sithadmin 5y ago
      Meh. The overwhelming majority of people consuming services like Nord VPN aren't doing it for privacy - that's just the 'safe' marketing schtick. People that subscribe to Nord and similar are doing it to avoid geoblocks.
      - lokedhs 5y ago
        One could argue that at least ExpressVPN is upfront about that in their ads.
    - dzhiurgis 5y ago
      Just few years ago everyone raved about VPN and called everyone an idiot for not using one
- rhinoceraptor 5y ago
  There's also a good Talks at Google by J. Kenji Lopez-Alt, it's not quite as polished a video since it's a live demo. He covers a couple topics, poaching eggs, making mayo and hollandaise and a few others if I remember correctly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk_IKBPkGSg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk_IKBPkGSg
- xibalba 5y ago
  > The author does shill out for a VPN company This flavor of moralistic grand standing with respect to ads is prevalent on HN and I just don’t get it. It is so obviously not rational. Why do you get to decide what is “right”? What funding model do you propose that is superior? How and why do you think labor happens (I.e. it’s motivation)? What is the harm done to you or others? Why don’t you just withhold your patronage if you’re so offended (instead of performative moralizing in HN comments)? This idea that advertising is innately bad is a near religion among some on this site, and, like religion, it appears as those its adherents haven’t really thought through the implications of their beliefs in a holistic way.
dangerboysteve 5y ago
This is why god invented stick mixers! mayo in 5 seconds.
reddog 5y ago
With an immersion blender and a right sized container you can make your own mayonnaise in less than a minute. And true, its good and fun for a change, but still not as good as Dukes (the "crap" sold in stores). A BLT is not a BLT without Dukes. Of course reasonable people can disagree: Julia Child was a huge Hellmans fan. Child advised people not to make their own mayo "because Hellmann's is the best." https://www.mashed.com/292102/julia-childs-favorite-mayonnaise-brand-has-the-internet-divided/ https://www.mashed.com/292102/julia-childs-favorite-mayonnai...
- bigmattystyles 5y ago
  Weird, I've looked at Safeway and WF before (my local stores) - even smaller delis - I've never seen that Brand (Dukes). It even has a yellow tint, which is a good sign. I will be on the lookout for it.
- dzhiurgis 5y ago
  How does it compare with Kewpie?
- cbfrench 5y ago
  Having grown up in the South, I was raised on Duke’s, and it remains for me the only acceptable mayo. It’s the mayo that can convert mayo-haters to the light (my wife included among this number). I’m glad that they are now distributing it more widely so that I can now find it at all the local grocers here in Indiana. A summertime tomato sandwich with Duke’s is one of the truly sublime expressions of gastronomy.

LeifCarrotson 5y ago

If you want to see a scientific approach to making good mayo, I recommend this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjw2AD8VSfo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjw2AD8VSfo The author does shill out for a VPN company, but his approach to cooking and the science behind the lecithin emulsifier that makes mayonnaise work is extremely interesting!

felipellrocha 5y ago
> The author does shill out for a VPN company That's a weird way of saying "trying to make a living"
- margalabargala 5y ago
  Finding new and creative ways to stick advertisements in front of people in ways that they can't easily avoid is indeed a way that some people try to make a living. It just happens to be a way of making a living of which many people, on HN and off, have a negative opinion. There have been plenty of poorly regarded professions throughout history that still drew people because they were paid, despite the negative publicity. Tax collectors in Ancient Rome were also just trying to make a living.
  - kcplate 5y ago
    > Finding new and creative ways to stick advertisements in front of people in ways that they can't easily avoid is indeed a way that some people try to make a living. In other words “Pretty much all media, everywhere”
    - margalabargala 5y ago
      Strong disagree. Almost all music (distinct from "music platforms") does not contain any advertising. Many movies contain product placements, but many more do not. TV shows frequently have ads embedded, but platforms like HBO do not show ads. Almost all paintings, sculptures, or other art media do not contain ads, excepting those created specifically for the advertising industry. Considering the totality of media created by humanity to date, I would suspect that advertising is present in a small minority.
      - kcplate 5y ago
        Music - concert shirts, terrestrial radio. Even streaming paid streaming services slip in sponsorship mentions. HBO - Owned by AT&T and WarnerMedia, literally WM has $8B in rev much from their platforms and brands that do sell advertising. Paintings and sculpture - you think museums aren’t an advertisement in of themselves? You don’t think cities and communities don’t subsidize those for cultural reasons do you? It’s a draw. But sure, some “art” is not advertisement saturated, but make no mistake—the organizations that distribute it or provide access to it..are filthy with it.
        margalabargala 5y ago
        IMO calling museums advertisements for a city/community is a stretch of the definition for the purpose of this discussion- like yeah, it could technically be considered that way, but it's so broad that it sort of renders the whole point moot. > the organizations that distribute it or provide access to it..are filthy with it. I think your point there is the crux of the whole thing for me. I see a big distinction between a piece of media that has an advertisement literally embedded within it by the creator and presented as part of the finished whole (example, a podcast where they shill some service or other) versus an ad-free piece of media where some other third party distributor shows advertisements alongside the media. The podcast in question further up the thread falls into the first bucket, while, for example, a hard news piece by a journalist that is then displayed on a website with banner ads is quantitatively different. In the latter, the piece of media exists, and can be experienced in its totality with all ads taken away, while in the podcast example, the ads are inextricable from the whole without altering the work itself.
- LeifCarrotson 5y ago
  I absolutely support Alex trying to make a living - I bought his cookbook! I know he has a Patreon and branded gear. I really hope he gets advertising deals from companies whose products he uses to share things he genuinely believes in. But no one really believes in scammy Youtube-advertising VPNs...right?
sithadmin 5y ago
I don't fault Alex for shilling the same high-value ads that every other successful Youtuber does. The guy is quite dedicated to making relatively difficult or obscure techniques accessible to home cook enthusiasts, and really puts a lot of work into churning out high quality content. If continuing to have access to new content from Alex means putting up with some fake praise for a VPN service, SquareSpace, etc...so be it.
- trvz 5y ago
  > I don't fault Alex for shilling the same high-value ads that every other successful Youtuber does. Just because everyone else is doing a wrong thing, doesn't make it ok if you do it, too.
  - sithadmin 5y ago
    Meh. The overwhelming majority of people consuming services like Nord VPN aren't doing it for privacy - that's just the 'safe' marketing schtick. People that subscribe to Nord and similar are doing it to avoid geoblocks.
    - lokedhs 5y ago
      One could argue that at least ExpressVPN is upfront about that in their ads.
  - dzhiurgis 5y ago
    Just few years ago everyone raved about VPN and called everyone an idiot for not using one
rhinoceraptor 5y ago
There's also a good Talks at Google by J. Kenji Lopez-Alt, it's not quite as polished a video since it's a live demo. He covers a couple topics, poaching eggs, making mayo and hollandaise and a few others if I remember correctly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk_IKBPkGSg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk_IKBPkGSg
xibalba 5y ago
> The author does shill out for a VPN company This flavor of moralistic grand standing with respect to ads is prevalent on HN and I just don’t get it. It is so obviously not rational. Why do you get to decide what is “right”? What funding model do you propose that is superior? How and why do you think labor happens (I.e. it’s motivation)? What is the harm done to you or others? Why don’t you just withhold your patronage if you’re so offended (instead of performative moralizing in HN comments)? This idea that advertising is innately bad is a near religion among some on this site, and, like religion, it appears as those its adherents haven’t really thought through the implications of their beliefs in a holistic way.

dangerboysteve 5y ago

This is why god invented stick mixers! mayo in 5 seconds.

reddog 5y ago

With an immersion blender and a right sized container you can make your own mayonnaise in less than a minute. And true, its good and fun for a change, but still not as good as Dukes (the "crap" sold in stores). A BLT is not a BLT without Dukes. Of course reasonable people can disagree: Julia Child was a huge Hellmans fan. Child advised people not to make their own mayo "because Hellmann's is the best." https://www.mashed.com/292102/julia-childs-favorite-mayonnaise-brand-has-the-internet-divided/ https://www.mashed.com/292102/julia-childs-favorite-mayonnai...

bigmattystyles 5y ago
Weird, I've looked at Safeway and WF before (my local stores) - even smaller delis - I've never seen that Brand (Dukes). It even has a yellow tint, which is a good sign. I will be on the lookout for it.
dzhiurgis 5y ago
How does it compare with Kewpie?
cbfrench 5y ago
Having grown up in the South, I was raised on Duke’s, and it remains for me the only acceptable mayo. It’s the mayo that can convert mayo-haters to the light (my wife included among this number). I’m glad that they are now distributing it more widely so that I can now find it at all the local grocers here in Indiana. A summertime tomato sandwich with Duke’s is one of the truly sublime expressions of gastronomy.