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I have the opposite viewpoint about ads. I don't think we should reward a business model which relies on the premise that humans like to watch ads. I never had

I have the opposite viewpoint about ads. I don't think we should reward a business model which relies on the premise that humans like to watch ads. I never had someone tell me to drive slower because they wanted to take a closer look at a billboard. Never had I had to rewind a video because someone missed an ad. etc... etc... Let's be honest. If someone told you to do any of the above things regularly and consistently, you would question their sanity. But somehow it's normal for businesses to assume people like to watch ads and make it their primary income revenue. Well, sure, some companies succeeded using this model. But I don't see why this should result in me paying more attention to ads. I don't hold the extremist position that all ads are bad or should be abolished. I have always tried to ignore ads. Adblockers automate what I normally do. And if your business model relies on me watching your ads, maybe you should reconsider your assumptions.

chrismcb 5y ago
Of course people watch ads. It is (or used to be#one reason outdoor watch the Superbowl. The world would actually be a boring place without ads. The problem is when they are over done or deliver malware.
- Intermernet 5y ago
  My world would definitely not be boring without ads. I'm not even sure how to respond to such a blatantly false claim.
- herbst 5y ago
  I honestly only know that from movies. I don't think I know anyone who actually watches these ads. I am not in America tho
gus_massa 5y ago
Nobody thinks that people wants to watch ads. The premise is that people hates opening their wallet more than what they hate watching an ad.
- matheusmoreira 5y ago
  That premise is false. There's always money to be made by selling people's attention. They'd put ads under people's eyelids if they could. People who open up their wallets and spend money are worth even more money to advertisers. The more you pay, the more ads they want to subject you to. The only way to get rid of them is to deny them any attention at all. They are not entitled to it under any circumstances. Drive their return on investment as close to zero as possible.
  - AnthonyMouse 5y ago
    The other point to be made here is that the average revenue per user for even the most successful advertising companies (e.g. Google) is less than $1/day. That's not a huge amount of money even for someone with a low income. (From a first-world perspective. Incomes are lower in other parts of the world, but so are advertising revenues from users there.) So the amount you would have to pay to deliver the same revenues to creators as advertising does is not very much. Especially if we could cut out the middle man so that all of what you pay goes to the content creator. That's the biggest problem we have right now. You have someone write a news article, a million people read it, it cost you maybe a thousand dollars to write (assuming it's well-researched and not garbage clickbait), so to recover your costs you need one tenth of one cent per user. We need a payment system which makes transactions that small efficient. And it needs to be anonymous for the buyer, because the whole point is to get rid of the tracking, right? Fix that and you can sustainably pay <$300 and not have to see any ads all year.
    - matheusmoreira 5y ago
      > We need a payment system which makes transactions that small efficient. And it needs to be anonymous for the buyer, because the whole point is to get rid of the tracking, right? Hopefully Monero will achieve this one day.
      - tofurocks 5y ago
        My monero investment is down so bad that a micro payment is all I will be able to afford
asiachick 5y ago
Plenty of people like watching ads. Just go to youtube and see all the ads posted. There's whole channels https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUBpIWz6bPk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUBpIWz6bPk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTcV-7Ubzpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTcV-7Ubzpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYFyruOvAnM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYFyruOvAnM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVwvmozG6-A&list=PLjHdPL8MePTw2oXzGIp0WTENwxA-YX2nB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVwvmozG6-A&list=PLjHdPL8MeP... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdCYe4FoMRA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdCYe4FoMRA I had plenty of friends that hated Football but would throw a party to watch the ads https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muyq2kMDFoA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muyq2kMDFoA
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- sgjohnson 5y ago
  The only ads I like watching are the Mafia City ones. It’s peak comedy.

chrismcb 5y ago

Of course people watch ads. It is (or used to be#one reason outdoor watch the Superbowl. The world would actually be a boring place without ads. The problem is when they are over done or deliver malware.

Intermernet 5y ago
My world would definitely not be boring without ads. I'm not even sure how to respond to such a blatantly false claim.
herbst 5y ago
I honestly only know that from movies. I don't think I know anyone who actually watches these ads. I am not in America tho

gus_massa 5y ago

Nobody thinks that people wants to watch ads. The premise is that people hates opening their wallet more than what they hate watching an ad.

matheusmoreira 5y ago
That premise is false. There's always money to be made by selling people's attention. They'd put ads under people's eyelids if they could. People who open up their wallets and spend money are worth even more money to advertisers. The more you pay, the more ads they want to subject you to. The only way to get rid of them is to deny them any attention at all. They are not entitled to it under any circumstances. Drive their return on investment as close to zero as possible.
- AnthonyMouse 5y ago
  The other point to be made here is that the average revenue per user for even the most successful advertising companies (e.g. Google) is less than $1/day. That's not a huge amount of money even for someone with a low income. (From a first-world perspective. Incomes are lower in other parts of the world, but so are advertising revenues from users there.) So the amount you would have to pay to deliver the same revenues to creators as advertising does is not very much. Especially if we could cut out the middle man so that all of what you pay goes to the content creator. That's the biggest problem we have right now. You have someone write a news article, a million people read it, it cost you maybe a thousand dollars to write (assuming it's well-researched and not garbage clickbait), so to recover your costs you need one tenth of one cent per user. We need a payment system which makes transactions that small efficient. And it needs to be anonymous for the buyer, because the whole point is to get rid of the tracking, right? Fix that and you can sustainably pay <$300 and not have to see any ads all year.
  - matheusmoreira 5y ago
    > We need a payment system which makes transactions that small efficient. And it needs to be anonymous for the buyer, because the whole point is to get rid of the tracking, right? Hopefully Monero will achieve this one day.
    - tofurocks 5y ago
      My monero investment is down so bad that a micro payment is all I will be able to afford

asiachick 5y ago

Plenty of people like watching ads. Just go to youtube and see all the ads posted. There's whole channels https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUBpIWz6bPk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUBpIWz6bPk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTcV-7Ubzpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTcV-7Ubzpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYFyruOvAnM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYFyruOvAnM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVwvmozG6-A&list=PLjHdPL8MePTw2oXzGIp0WTENwxA-YX2nB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVwvmozG6-A&list=PLjHdPL8MeP... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdCYe4FoMRA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdCYe4FoMRA I had plenty of friends that hated Football but would throw a party to watch the ads https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muyq2kMDFoA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Muyq2kMDFoA

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sgjohnson 5y ago
The only ads I like watching are the Mafia City ones. It’s peak comedy.