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If the data belongs to an individual consumer, the data must actually be deleted at the customer’s request to comply with GDPR and CCPA.

gfodor 5y ago
A great theory but in practice in this specific case the legal system will be forced to capitulate. Either a country has to ban all crypto mining or not enforce GDPR on chain nodes. Seems obvious which way it will land in the long run.
- remexre 5y ago
  didn't china already ban mining lmao
- not2b 5y ago
  Unless much more energy-efficient methods are developed, it seems in the long term crypto mining is going to be banned almost everywhere. The alternative would be cooking the planet. Perhaps this problem can be solved somehow, but the alternatives have their problems.
- gls2ro 5y ago
  I really don't think a legal argument can be made in case of GDPR breach saying "we cannot enforce GDPR because our tech does not support this" I think if you are a business you should choose technology that allows you to be compliant with the law.
  - CryptoPunk 5y ago
    >>I think if you are a business you should choose technology that allows you to be compliant with the law. Unless the law violates personal liberty, which GDPR does.
    - gls2ro 5y ago
      How does GDPR violate personal liberty? I am very curious if you can pinpoint what exactly from it violates personal libery.
      - CryptoPunk 5y ago
        It violates the right to offer a service in exchange for permanent access to the private data the user discloses to you. It's a cookie cutter rule that restricts contract liberty to create more regimented social interaction.
- malermeister 5y ago
  It also seems obvious to me, but I don't think we came to the same "obvious" conclusion.
cblconfederate 5y ago
I d like to see them try to enforce the GDPR across the entire internet simultaneously People should realize that writing a law on a piece of paper doesn't make it real or enforceable
- TrackerFF 5y ago
  In many countries, it is possible to force ISPs to block content - and in the end, I guess it's easier for ISPs to simply not offer you their service, than face gov. mandated fines. It's a bit like cryptocurrencies and banks. Because it becomes such a big burden for banks (to prove that the money obtained by selling crypto is not related to funding terrorism, crime, etc.), many banks simply refuse service to customers dealing with crypto. Either closing accounts, freezing money, or whatever.
  - cblconfederate 5y ago
    not easy with distributed systemd. That's how the internet upended text / books/ music/ video. and now money

gfodor 5y ago

A great theory but in practice in this specific case the legal system will be forced to capitulate. Either a country has to ban all crypto mining or not enforce GDPR on chain nodes. Seems obvious which way it will land in the long run.

remexre 5y ago
didn't china already ban mining lmao
not2b 5y ago
Unless much more energy-efficient methods are developed, it seems in the long term crypto mining is going to be banned almost everywhere. The alternative would be cooking the planet. Perhaps this problem can be solved somehow, but the alternatives have their problems.
gls2ro 5y ago
I really don't think a legal argument can be made in case of GDPR breach saying "we cannot enforce GDPR because our tech does not support this" I think if you are a business you should choose technology that allows you to be compliant with the law.
- CryptoPunk 5y ago
  >>I think if you are a business you should choose technology that allows you to be compliant with the law. Unless the law violates personal liberty, which GDPR does.
  - gls2ro 5y ago
    How does GDPR violate personal liberty? I am very curious if you can pinpoint what exactly from it violates personal libery.
    - CryptoPunk 5y ago
      It violates the right to offer a service in exchange for permanent access to the private data the user discloses to you. It's a cookie cutter rule that restricts contract liberty to create more regimented social interaction.
malermeister 5y ago
It also seems obvious to me, but I don't think we came to the same "obvious" conclusion.

cblconfederate 5y ago

I d like to see them try to enforce the GDPR across the entire internet simultaneously People should realize that writing a law on a piece of paper doesn't make it real or enforceable

TrackerFF 5y ago
In many countries, it is possible to force ISPs to block content - and in the end, I guess it's easier for ISPs to simply not offer you their service, than face gov. mandated fines. It's a bit like cryptocurrencies and banks. Because it becomes such a big burden for banks (to prove that the money obtained by selling crypto is not related to funding terrorism, crime, etc.), many banks simply refuse service to customers dealing with crypto. Either closing accounts, freezing money, or whatever.
- cblconfederate 5y ago
  not easy with distributed systemd. That's how the internet upended text / books/ music/ video. and now money