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My former coworker worked on airpods. Most of RnD for them was made in Apple's Shenzhen RnD centre which existence Apple for long time tried to hide.

fnord77 5y ago
the first airpods were released in Dec 2016, roughly the same time apple opened the Shenzhen r&d center, so I don't see how r&d for this product was done there.
- baybal2 5y ago
  Apple had it running since much earlier than 2016. The earliest I heard of Apple running something like a permanent engineering centre in the city was in 2013. I was saying them trying to hide its existence because for long Apple demanded its employees in China to even refrain from publishing the fact of their employment with them like on LinkedIn But the industry is too small, everybody knew about it for years. So 2016, was more like an official inauguration, when Apple admitted its existence, moved all their offices in the city to Kerry plaza, and put a nameplate on it.
908B64B197 5y ago
> Most of RnD for them was made in Apple's Shenzhen RnD centre which existence Apple for long time tried to hide. I keep hearing online about this famous R&D center, where apparently they work on absolutely cutting edge stuff. Except Apple employees I know never mentioned it. Wonder why people would push that narrative that engineering is switching to China.
- baybal2 5y ago
  Nobody needs to push it, for a reason that's been the case for the last 20 years. I simply cannot find a single place in US doing many engineering services I can get in China. Amazon, Google, Square, Facebook, Microsoft, Roblox, Snapchat all other silicon valley cool kids have since setup themselves suspiciously close to Apple's offices in Kerry plaza. And most of them did so long after China-US relations went really sour After Trump. All equally so tried to keep their presence there very low key. > Except Apple employees I know never mentioned it. Maybe they don't work on the hardware side? US side of the company simply barely sees much of the "fieldwork" part.

fnord77 5y ago

the first airpods were released in Dec 2016, roughly the same time apple opened the Shenzhen r&d center, so I don't see how r&d for this product was done there.

baybal2 5y ago
Apple had it running since much earlier than 2016. The earliest I heard of Apple running something like a permanent engineering centre in the city was in 2013. I was saying them trying to hide its existence because for long Apple demanded its employees in China to even refrain from publishing the fact of their employment with them like on LinkedIn But the industry is too small, everybody knew about it for years. So 2016, was more like an official inauguration, when Apple admitted its existence, moved all their offices in the city to Kerry plaza, and put a nameplate on it.

908B64B197 5y ago

> Most of RnD for them was made in Apple's Shenzhen RnD centre which existence Apple for long time tried to hide. I keep hearing online about this famous R&D center, where apparently they work on absolutely cutting edge stuff. Except Apple employees I know never mentioned it. Wonder why people would push that narrative that engineering is switching to China.

baybal2 5y ago
Nobody needs to push it, for a reason that's been the case for the last 20 years. I simply cannot find a single place in US doing many engineering services I can get in China. Amazon, Google, Square, Facebook, Microsoft, Roblox, Snapchat all other silicon valley cool kids have since setup themselves suspiciously close to Apple's offices in Kerry plaza. And most of them did so long after China-US relations went really sour After Trump. All equally so tried to keep their presence there very low key. > Except Apple employees I know never mentioned it. Maybe they don't work on the hardware side? US side of the company simply barely sees much of the "fieldwork" part.