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You're not wrong, but it's frustrating that responsibility has to fall on the pedestrian, not the driver. A pedestrian would be perfectly safe walking around wi

You're not wrong, but it's frustrating that responsibility has to fall on the pedestrian, not the driver. A pedestrian would be perfectly safe walking around with dark clothing if there were no cars around.

BoorishBears 5y ago
I walk and drive in a big city (NYC), I don't get this mentality of being frustrated over self-preservation, yet you're not the first person to share a sentiment like this. No one exists in a modern city without indirectly taking advantage of cars and trucks. So people should be more enthusiastic about being part of the solution when it comes to pedestrian safety. - I see people get annoyed when I imply they should proactive about their safety as a pedestrian, but at the end of the day we're all shopping at stores stocked by trucks with horrible visibility and maneuverability mostly driving at night... The same way everyone benefits from the existence of automobiles, everyone should be part of the solution when it comes to their safety while near them.
- _dain_ 5y ago
  The best way to be "proactive about safety" as a pedestrian is to pressure your local government into improving the physical layout of roads so that they are safe by design, so that people do not need to do preposterous and undignified things like wear reflective clothing or helmets.
vineyardmike 5y ago
> responsibility has to fall on the pedestrian Drivers should drive at speeds/times/lighting conditions so they don't hit people, or at least minimize the chances. Pedestrians should care about their own safety too. There's a reason we tell children not to play in the road. I've a very pro-pedestrian and anti-car urban dweller who walks everywhere and curses at cars flying by, but i wouldn't blindly step into the road without paying attention to cars around me, especially at night. This behavior isn't because i think drivers should get a pass, its because it'd f*king suck if i died.
csours 5y ago
> A pedestrian would be perfectly safe walking around with dark clothing if there were no cars around. Horses? Carriages? Cyclists? Scooters? A pedestrian is safe around other pedestrians. Safety is always a shared responsibility.

BoorishBears 5y ago

I walk and drive in a big city (NYC), I don't get this mentality of being frustrated over self-preservation, yet you're not the first person to share a sentiment like this. No one exists in a modern city without indirectly taking advantage of cars and trucks. So people should be more enthusiastic about being part of the solution when it comes to pedestrian safety. - I see people get annoyed when I imply they should proactive about their safety as a pedestrian, but at the end of the day we're all shopping at stores stocked by trucks with horrible visibility and maneuverability mostly driving at night... The same way everyone benefits from the existence of automobiles, everyone should be part of the solution when it comes to their safety while near them.

_dain_ 5y ago
The best way to be "proactive about safety" as a pedestrian is to pressure your local government into improving the physical layout of roads so that they are safe by design, so that people do not need to do preposterous and undignified things like wear reflective clothing or helmets.

vineyardmike 5y ago

> responsibility has to fall on the pedestrian Drivers should drive at speeds/times/lighting conditions so they don't hit people, or at least minimize the chances. Pedestrians should care about their own safety too. There's a reason we tell children not to play in the road. I've a very pro-pedestrian and anti-car urban dweller who walks everywhere and curses at cars flying by, but i wouldn't blindly step into the road without paying attention to cars around me, especially at night. This behavior isn't because i think drivers should get a pass, its because it'd f*king suck if i died.

csours 5y ago

> A pedestrian would be perfectly safe walking around with dark clothing if there were no cars around. Horses? Carriages? Cyclists? Scooters? A pedestrian is safe around other pedestrians. Safety is always a shared responsibility.