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I'm honestly surprised there aren't more traffic fatalities in San Francisco, especially with how many pedestrians, ride sharing drivers, and narrow streets the

I'm honestly surprised there aren't more traffic fatalities in San Francisco, especially with how many pedestrians, ride sharing drivers, and narrow streets there are. Coming from the mid-west, there are status quo norms (laws?) that baffle me: - Cars can park all down the street, even right up on the crosswalks at either end. It is incredibly hard to see people trying to use the cross walks, when they are behind the cars. Cars parking that close is illegal in many streets where I'm from. - The amount of cross walks in the middle of high traffic streets (not intersections) that rely solely on visibility between the driver and pedestrian. Again, these streets are usually lined with cars on either side, so it's even harder to see. They could use the electronic, push button signs that light up and beep when a pedestrian wants to cross; which to be fair I've seen around, but not nearly as many as there should be. I understand the city isn't going to reduce street parking, but at least implement better communication between drivers and pedestrians. The light up cross walks are a good start.

estebank 5y ago
> Cars parking that close is illegal in many streets where I'm from. That's called daylighting and SFMTA knows it exists. That they aren't using it everywhere is baffling[1]. > I understand the city isn't going to reduce street parking It should, but given how much push back there is for every change to cities that make them better cities (increased density, prioritizing local movement of people by improving things for transit, cyclists and pedestrians, implementing safer streets) I'm not holding my breath. [1]: https://www.sfmta.com/blog/daylighting-makes-san-francisco-crosswalks-safer https://www.sfmta.com/blog/daylighting-makes-san-francisco-c...
- lbwtaylor 5y ago
  Completely agree - why daylighting isn't more comprehensive in SF boggles the mind. Someone above blamed the A-pillar. I think parked cars are a significantly worse problem in SF for turning visibility and daylighting is very limited.
worker767424 5y ago
> It is incredibly hard to see people trying to use the cross walks This is only an issue for right turns (on two-way streets, anyway). Recently, walk signs have started illuminating a few seconds before the green light, and I assume it's for more pedestrian visibility. I wouldn't be surprised if the most dangerous thing in this scenario is a right on red while jaywalking. The driver knows they have a red, they look left for oncoming traffic, but not right for jaywalking pedestrians.

estebank 5y ago

> Cars parking that close is illegal in many streets where I'm from. That's called daylighting and SFMTA knows it exists. That they aren't using it everywhere is baffling[1]. > I understand the city isn't going to reduce street parking It should, but given how much push back there is for every change to cities that make them better cities (increased density, prioritizing local movement of people by improving things for transit, cyclists and pedestrians, implementing safer streets) I'm not holding my breath. [1]: https://www.sfmta.com/blog/daylighting-makes-san-francisco-crosswalks-safer https://www.sfmta.com/blog/daylighting-makes-san-francisco-c...

lbwtaylor 5y ago
Completely agree - why daylighting isn't more comprehensive in SF boggles the mind. Someone above blamed the A-pillar. I think parked cars are a significantly worse problem in SF for turning visibility and daylighting is very limited.

worker767424 5y ago

> It is incredibly hard to see people trying to use the cross walks This is only an issue for right turns (on two-way streets, anyway). Recently, walk signs have started illuminating a few seconds before the green light, and I assume it's for more pedestrian visibility. I wouldn't be surprised if the most dangerous thing in this scenario is a right on red while jaywalking. The driver knows they have a red, they look left for oncoming traffic, but not right for jaywalking pedestrians.