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I would have to imagine that tracks similar to the "K" shaped economy recovery. This means that lower pay physically based positions [retail, travel, food] have

I would have to imagine that tracks similar to the "K" shaped economy recovery. This means that lower pay physically based positions [retail, travel, food] have seen great amounts of people leaving those industries as Government stimulus checks have given people time and money to think about their jobs, many are also leaving the industry permanently if they can. On the flip side higher payed professional positions are seeing some turnover but no where anywhere like the other lower paid sectors. I know for a fact that the restaurant/food service situation is on full meltdown mode in Southern California. A few panda expresses have run out rice. Multiple Habit burgers have shut down due to lack of staff, eating out at restaurants have been the worse I have ever seen it as everyone is really new and it shows. That being said I have been to a lot of places in the country this year(Utah, Arizona, Hawaii) and nothing is similar to what I've seen locally in southern California so it may track to how expensive California has become and could be people are quitting jobs in expensive areas and moving to cheaper ones.

TulliusCicero 5y ago
This has been a long time coming for California. It’s a great state in many ways, but the way most of the local and state leaders have repeatedly punted on the issue of housing affordability is shameful. Calling their efforts half assed would be too generous, it’s quarter assed at most. The recent change to upzone previously single family home only areas is good, but even then, the new regulation is filled with caveats that weaken it.
- ghaff 5y ago
  >I know for a fact that the restaurant/food service situation is on full meltdown mode in Southern California. I won't say it's everywhere but I've seen the same problem as California in Washington (including rural Washington) and Raleigh. Everyone I know who travels has been running into the difficulties of trying to find places to eat at on a given day.
bit_logic 5y ago
I'm in LA and it's in a downward spiral. Went to a restaurant yesterday and a dish was $16 which was a shocking increase. I went to look at menu photos from 2019 on yelp and the same dish was $12 back then. Service was really bad, they basically took the order, delivered the food, and we never saw them again. No water refills, got tired of waiting for the check and had to walk up front to ask for it. I'm usually generous with tips, but why should this poor service be rewarded? And on top of the already inflated prices? So restaurants are getting squeezed on all sides. Supply costs up, wages are up, labor shortage, rent is up. Tips will go down as customers are upset with poor service, which means more pressure on wages. All of this means higher prices, which means fewer customers and more takeout orders. The old restaurant business model is simply not sustainable.
- subsubzero 5y ago
  my restaurant experience and it happened more than twice were: drinks taking 40+ mins to arrive, kids food never came, food was wrong and 1 hour+ and cold. 4% covid charge on top of sky high bill. I don't think I'll eat out anymore, we are just resigning ourselves to cook every meal. No way I am going to waste money for a horrible experience that costs a fortune.

TulliusCicero 5y ago

This has been a long time coming for California. It’s a great state in many ways, but the way most of the local and state leaders have repeatedly punted on the issue of housing affordability is shameful. Calling their efforts half assed would be too generous, it’s quarter assed at most. The recent change to upzone previously single family home only areas is good, but even then, the new regulation is filled with caveats that weaken it.

ghaff 5y ago
>I know for a fact that the restaurant/food service situation is on full meltdown mode in Southern California. I won't say it's everywhere but I've seen the same problem as California in Washington (including rural Washington) and Raleigh. Everyone I know who travels has been running into the difficulties of trying to find places to eat at on a given day.

bit_logic 5y ago

I'm in LA and it's in a downward spiral. Went to a restaurant yesterday and a dish was $16 which was a shocking increase. I went to look at menu photos from 2019 on yelp and the same dish was $12 back then. Service was really bad, they basically took the order, delivered the food, and we never saw them again. No water refills, got tired of waiting for the check and had to walk up front to ask for it. I'm usually generous with tips, but why should this poor service be rewarded? And on top of the already inflated prices? So restaurants are getting squeezed on all sides. Supply costs up, wages are up, labor shortage, rent is up. Tips will go down as customers are upset with poor service, which means more pressure on wages. All of this means higher prices, which means fewer customers and more takeout orders. The old restaurant business model is simply not sustainable.

subsubzero 5y ago
my restaurant experience and it happened more than twice were: drinks taking 40+ mins to arrive, kids food never came, food was wrong and 1 hour+ and cold. 4% covid charge on top of sky high bill. I don't think I'll eat out anymore, we are just resigning ourselves to cook every meal. No way I am going to waste money for a horrible experience that costs a fortune.