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Your argument goes like this: Somebody who is incredibly successful, a genius in many ways and very popular, can't be also a lier and psychopath. That's a logi
by Pyramus 5y ago
Your argument goes like this: Somebody who is incredibly successful, a genius in many ways and very popular, can't be also a lier and psychopath.
That's a logical fallacy. In fact, the two are positively correlated (and there is a long list of entrepreneurs who are both charismatic geniuses and psychopaths).
So you need to differentiate what Elon says, and what is can be verified. In some cases the delta can be huge (and quite shocking). E.g.
> factory safety levels 2x+ those of the competition
Tesla is the single biggest OSHA violator in California.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/26727/tesla-had-3-times-as-many-osha-violations-as-the-10-largest-us-plants-combined https://www.thedrive.com/news/26727/tesla-had-3-times-as-man...
- s5300 5y agoI didn’t realize there were other major auto manufacturers in California. Could you link them to me?
- chucksta 5y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Motor_vehicle_assembly_plants_in_California https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Motor_vehicle_assembl...
- s5300 5y agoThe first three of the links I clicked on haven’t been operational in over half a century. Feel free to link some of the ones operational within… a few decades I guess.
- Gwypaas 5y agoThe only one still operating except Tesla's, which is listed 3 times on that page, is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Auto_Body_California https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Auto_Body_California It has ~300 employees compared to Tesla's Fremont factory with ~10000 employees.
- gamblor956 5y agoOSHA is a federal agency. Tesla leads the nation in OSHA violations. From the linked article: "data collected by Forbes shows that Tesla has accumulated more than three times the number of Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) violations that its top 10 competitors amassed from 2014-2018." And indeed, the data shows that with 75% of reported safety violations, Tesla not just leads the nation in violations, it has more than 3x the safety violations of every other US auto maker combined.