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Imagine making this complaint with regards to electrical, or plumbing work. How would you feel if your electrician put an easter egg in your home's electrical s
by arpyzo 5y ago
Imagine making this complaint with regards to electrical, or plumbing work. How would you feel if your electrician put an easter egg in your home's electrical system?
- 0des 5y agoThese are not the same! Plumbers don't make piping for fun and then allow others to use it for free.
- laumars 5y agoMotives are irrelevant. It’s the application that matters. To use the example here. What if a plumber is wealthy enough to retire but continues to work because they enjoy it. And what if they then offer a job for free, eg for a community centre or church. Are they then allowed to put an Easter egg in where the pipes explode on Christmas Day?
- matsemann 5y agoTearing down a building,, you could probably find many easter eggs. Things written on the inside of walls. A signature in concrete later being covered by materials. Etc. Comparing adding a fun flag to a system with making a physical bomb is a huge strawman.
- laumars 5y agoExaggeration, sure. But not a straw man. The rational behind the exaggeration was to illustrate how even seemingly innocuous software Easter eggs, like an additional flag, have often actually turned out to be security vulnerabilities. Maybe there is a better way of illustrating that using the plumbing metaphor. Nothing immediately came to my mind but I do apologise if my choice of analogy was more of a distraction than an explanation.
- matsemann 5y agoIt's a strawman in the sense that some here argue for the fun of adding a few bytes of output to some program, while your retorts argue against them wanting to blow up innocent people.
- badsectoracula 5y ago> What if a plumber is wealthy enough to retire but continues to work because they enjoy it. And what if they then offer a job for free, eg for a community centre or church. Are they then allowed to put an Easter egg in where the pipes explode on Christmas Day? This is a bad example because in what you describe the plumber is making a malicious "easter egg".
- laumars 5y agoFair enough the motives are malicious but would any kind of Easter egg be tolerated? In secure software any kind of Easter egg can end up being a vulnerability (and all to often has become one).
- 0des 5y agoLet it go
- laumars 5y agoFor goodness sake I’m trying to having a grown up conversation with someone else and you’re making out like I have a personal vendetta against yourself.
- 0des 5y agoYou're editing and re-editing a lot of snark and aggression, consider that you might be a little too invested in this. Let it go! We are all nerds here, nobody has to be like this to each other.
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- laumars 5y agoLiterally the only snark and aggressive comments being made are coming from yourself. I’m not going to stop chatting to other people on this subject because you’ve decided to troll me over a difference of opinion.
- tqi 5y agoNo one is stopping you from having "fun" with your free tool, it's just that if you do many/most people will not want to use your tool no matter how free it is.
- 0des 5y agoI like to feed the birds with my less-awesome bread loaves sometimes, as I learn to bake. I am not at all disappointed that someone doesn't create stuffing or croutons with it.
- tqi 5y agoI think this is more like some other baker saying "I don't put raisins in my bread because the people I am baking for don't like raisins" and you shouting "argh when did people become such prudes??"
- Sebb767 5y agoNeither do the curl authors. This library is used basically everywhere, from your device over IoT applications to critical servers. Sure, people might have fun while writing this software, just like your plumber might enjoy his craft, but the end product is professional groundwork.
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