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> With these rules I've managed to go from -5.5/-6 to -3.5/-3.75 in just these 9 months. And that's with me still spending 12h a day on my computer. Do you mea

> With these rules I've managed to go from -5.5/-6 to -3.5/-3.75 in just these 9 months. And that's with me still spending 12h a day on my computer. Do you mean you've gotten used to a weaker pair of glasses? Can you actually see just as well, and how have you tested that? Are you around 40 (far vision improves around that age)?

Aulig 5y ago
I always use weaker glasses on my computer now (around 1.5 diopters less than my full correction). I just reduce that reduced correction step by step (recommended is .25 diopter reductions, .5 worked for me too though) when it feels right (aka when I can see the screen decently well even with the new weaker glasses). So I started by using -4 glasses at the computer and now I use -2. To check my current eyesight, I use a printed Snellen chart and the focal calculator https://endmyopia.org/focal-calculator/calc.html https://endmyopia.org/focal-calculator/calc.html The focal calculator is less accurate, but over mutliple measurements it averages out and adds up to a similar result as the Snellen chart for me. No, I'm in my early twenties. Yes, fully corrected, I can even see better than before to be honest. My eye doctor told me last time (before I started endmyopia) that I only have around 80% vision, even with glasses. I noticed that when playing tennis, I had trouble telling if balls were still in the opponents field because I couldn't see the back line properly. Last time I played I noticed how much better I could see it :)
- VMtest 5y ago
  I couldn't believe what I just read... What you said is basically what I read 7~8 years ago when I was in my early twenties I searched and read about this method in a Chinese forum website, zhihu, IIRC. As lazy as I was, I just couldn't be serious with any methods to cure my eyesight Now that I read your comment on HN, it is actually legit lmao
  - Aulig 5y ago
    Yea, there's many similar strategies out there :) Try it out, I'm sure you can change your habits and make it work!
- Buttons840 5y ago
  When you go to the ophthalmologist and they do their thing, do they end up giving you weaker prescriptions? The skeptic in me wonders if you've simple gotten used to poor eyesight? I'm curious though and really want to hear more. Also, seeing an ophthalmologist is still important, they check your eyes for potential problems, more than just issuing prescriptions. You say you worry about retinal detachment, they can see early warning signs of that and fix it sometimes.
  - Aulig 5y ago
    Well I can see 20/20 with my new weaker glasses on the Snellen eye chart, so I don't think I just got used to worse vision. I will be going to the eye doctor soon again and will hopefully get a similar prescription from her as from my own measurements :) You're right about retinal detachment. I worry less about it now that my eyes are improving and it doesn't feel like I'm on an unstoppable trajectory towards worse eyes and higher risk for retinal detachment anymore. I heard it can appear quite rapidly, which worried me even when going to routine checkups.
RedBeetDeadpool 5y ago
For what its worth, I've known about endmyopia for some time as well. Snellen chart is how you can verify things for yourself, you can only lie to yourself so much. I've improved my eyesight as well but nowhere near as much as Aulig has (roughly an improvement of 1.5 diopters over 3 years). I'm also much older, mid 30's, so that might be a factor in rate of improvement. I can't even see out of the glasses that I had before I started, so I know its definitely improved.
- Aulig 5y ago
  Congrats on the improvement! Progress will most likely slow down for me too, from what I heard it's common to have quick gains in the beginning. After that it's supposed to be .75 diopters per year, so roughly what you're getting :)

Aulig 5y ago

I always use weaker glasses on my computer now (around 1.5 diopters less than my full correction). I just reduce that reduced correction step by step (recommended is .25 diopter reductions, .5 worked for me too though) when it feels right (aka when I can see the screen decently well even with the new weaker glasses). So I started by using -4 glasses at the computer and now I use -2. To check my current eyesight, I use a printed Snellen chart and the focal calculator https://endmyopia.org/focal-calculator/calc.html https://endmyopia.org/focal-calculator/calc.html The focal calculator is less accurate, but over mutliple measurements it averages out and adds up to a similar result as the Snellen chart for me. No, I'm in my early twenties. Yes, fully corrected, I can even see better than before to be honest. My eye doctor told me last time (before I started endmyopia) that I only have around 80% vision, even with glasses. I noticed that when playing tennis, I had trouble telling if balls were still in the opponents field because I couldn't see the back line properly. Last time I played I noticed how much better I could see it :)

VMtest 5y ago
I couldn't believe what I just read... What you said is basically what I read 7~8 years ago when I was in my early twenties I searched and read about this method in a Chinese forum website, zhihu, IIRC. As lazy as I was, I just couldn't be serious with any methods to cure my eyesight Now that I read your comment on HN, it is actually legit lmao
- Aulig 5y ago
  Yea, there's many similar strategies out there :) Try it out, I'm sure you can change your habits and make it work!
Buttons840 5y ago
When you go to the ophthalmologist and they do their thing, do they end up giving you weaker prescriptions? The skeptic in me wonders if you've simple gotten used to poor eyesight? I'm curious though and really want to hear more. Also, seeing an ophthalmologist is still important, they check your eyes for potential problems, more than just issuing prescriptions. You say you worry about retinal detachment, they can see early warning signs of that and fix it sometimes.
- Aulig 5y ago
  Well I can see 20/20 with my new weaker glasses on the Snellen eye chart, so I don't think I just got used to worse vision. I will be going to the eye doctor soon again and will hopefully get a similar prescription from her as from my own measurements :) You're right about retinal detachment. I worry less about it now that my eyes are improving and it doesn't feel like I'm on an unstoppable trajectory towards worse eyes and higher risk for retinal detachment anymore. I heard it can appear quite rapidly, which worried me even when going to routine checkups.

RedBeetDeadpool 5y ago

For what its worth, I've known about endmyopia for some time as well. Snellen chart is how you can verify things for yourself, you can only lie to yourself so much. I've improved my eyesight as well but nowhere near as much as Aulig has (roughly an improvement of 1.5 diopters over 3 years). I'm also much older, mid 30's, so that might be a factor in rate of improvement. I can't even see out of the glasses that I had before I started, so I know its definitely improved.

Aulig 5y ago
Congrats on the improvement! Progress will most likely slow down for me too, from what I heard it's common to have quick gains in the beginning. After that it's supposed to be .75 diopters per year, so roughly what you're getting :)