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Additionally, let's remember that lion's a $30 upgrade, which makes things sting quite a bit less.

mitjak 15y ago
It's still the next major OS release, regardless of the price.
watmough 15y ago
I tried it for a bit, then happily re-imaged back to Snow Leopard. There's just too much goofy laptop oriented crap that I don't want. I was laughing out loud reading that article. And grimacing, as someone who works late in a quiet house, at the loss of fine volume adjustment from the keyboard. I will have to test software on lion, but I'll just dedicate a partition and drop into it when necessary. The worst thing for me was Mission Control. I miss the proportionately-scaled windows of Tiger(?) Exposé, but I utterly refuse to completely disrupt my flow with the clusterfuck that is Mission Control. Re-fuse. I'll freely admit that I'm on a Mac Pro in a sea of laptops, but I have work to do, and it's just easier in Snow Leopard than it is in Lion.
- tptacek 15y ago
  Lion is not for you. Snowpard will continue to work without being a liability for probably the next 12 months, at least. Giving up on Lion isn't a moral failing. Give the pioneers some time to absorb the arrows. By next March, I'm betting that (suitably tuned) Lion won't be anywhere nearly as annoying as it is today.
  - watmough 15y ago
    Yeah, I'm so happy with Snow Leopard, that this is just not a big deal to me, and let's face it, unless it's mind-blowingly good, like an XP or a Tiger or Leopard, a set of big changes is bound to make a chunk of people unhappy. My Mac Mini on Tiger is still seeing updates for iTunes, so Apple seem to be supporting older stuff at least partially.
rrrazdan 15y ago
I fail to see why I should lower my expectations from my Operating System because of the price.
- tptacek 15y ago
  Are you sure you're not just nerding out on the notion that you (need to be running/are entitled to love) the latest version of an operating system? People are going to take products in directions you don't love. Try falling in love with a car series sometime. :)
- webXL 15y ago
  Nobody asked you to, but if we're going to talk about expectations, then people would be much happier lowering theirs for major OS revisions or changes to any complex system for that matter. Every time a car line gets a new engine, you just know there are going to be issues for the first run that comes off the assembly line. No one was forced to upgrade from 10.6.8 to 10.7.0, or 9.x to 10.0 for that matter, or buy a new computer with it pre-installed. But people do and did because there's a perceived benefit. Early adopters always pay some sort of price though.
ori_b 15y ago
It's not the cost of the upgrade that matters. It's the cost of lost productivity and regressions.
wmf 15y ago
If Lion is actually worse than Snow Leopard (obviously this is debatable), any price is an insult.

It's still the next major OS release, regardless of the price.

I tried it for a bit, then happily re-imaged back to Snow Leopard. There's just too much goofy laptop oriented crap that I don't want. I was laughing out loud reading that article. And grimacing, as someone who works late in a quiet house, at the loss of fine volume adjustment from the keyboard. I will have to test software on lion, but I'll just dedicate a partition and drop into it when necessary. The worst thing for me was Mission Control. I miss the proportionately-scaled windows of Tiger(?) Exposé, but I utterly refuse to completely disrupt my flow with the clusterfuck that is Mission Control. Re-fuse. I'll freely admit that I'm on a Mac Pro in a sea of laptops, but I have work to do, and it's just easier in Snow Leopard than it is in Lion.

tptacek 15y ago
Lion is not for you. Snowpard will continue to work without being a liability for probably the next 12 months, at least. Giving up on Lion isn't a moral failing. Give the pioneers some time to absorb the arrows. By next March, I'm betting that (suitably tuned) Lion won't be anywhere nearly as annoying as it is today.
- watmough 15y ago
  Yeah, I'm so happy with Snow Leopard, that this is just not a big deal to me, and let's face it, unless it's mind-blowingly good, like an XP or a Tiger or Leopard, a set of big changes is bound to make a chunk of people unhappy. My Mac Mini on Tiger is still seeing updates for iTunes, so Apple seem to be supporting older stuff at least partially.

rrrazdan 15y ago

I fail to see why I should lower my expectations from my Operating System because of the price.

tptacek 15y ago
Are you sure you're not just nerding out on the notion that you (need to be running/are entitled to love) the latest version of an operating system? People are going to take products in directions you don't love. Try falling in love with a car series sometime. :)
webXL 15y ago
Nobody asked you to, but if we're going to talk about expectations, then people would be much happier lowering theirs for major OS revisions or changes to any complex system for that matter. Every time a car line gets a new engine, you just know there are going to be issues for the first run that comes off the assembly line. No one was forced to upgrade from 10.6.8 to 10.7.0, or 9.x to 10.0 for that matter, or buy a new computer with it pre-installed. But people do and did because there's a perceived benefit. Early adopters always pay some sort of price though.

ori_b 15y ago

It's not the cost of the upgrade that matters. It's the cost of lost productivity and regressions.

wmf 15y ago

If Lion is actually worse than Snow Leopard (obviously this is debatable), any price is an insult.