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There's a few things that are a bit weird about this article. - It uses "males" instead of "men" in the image caption. That's very "Reddit-y" and not how journ

There's a few things that are a bit weird about this article. - It uses "males" instead of "men" in the image caption. That's very "Reddit-y" and not how journalists write. - It doesn't mention the name of the Japanese Health Minister at all. - The only other link on the web about it is a YouTube video of a woman reading out the article verbatim (https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20211204_12/ https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20211204_12/). - If you search for Moderna with any of the cited numbers Google returns nothing. I'm reluctant to call bullshit on it, but you'd think an announcement from the health minister of G8 country would make more headlines.

Ambolia 5y ago
From Yahoo Japan: https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/c737f540fd3ae5a6b170ceb80770c5e1906adb3f https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/c737f540fd3ae5a6b170ceb807... The original seems to come from the Kyodo agency, but they don't have published it in english as far as I've seen. There's a video making rounds too but it looks a bit suspicious.
gizmo686 5y ago
There is nothing new about the vaccine in this report. Only a change in the labeling in Japan. Frankly, even for the Japanese this is not that interesting of a development, let alone internationally. Here is a US CDC page on the subject https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/my... I just got a booster over the weekend, and I can't tell you if this was listed in the consent form I skipped through. > It uses "males" instead of "men" in the image caption. That's very "Reddit-y" and not how journalists write. Using male/female instead of men/women is standard in medical writing.
0xbs 5y ago
Germany's Paul Ehrlich Institut (Germn federal agency, medical regulatory body and research institution for vaccines and biomedicines) periodically publishes vaccine security reports [1]. In the latest security report for Jan-Sep 2021 [2] (German only), it states in chapter 7.1.2 table 5 the rate of Myo-/Perikarditis per 100,000 vaccine doses of Pfizer (Corminaty) and Moderna (Spikevax) in different age groups: 11.41/100000 for age group 12-17 (based on 2 reports, hence unconfident) 11.71/100000 for age group 18-29 [1] https://www.pei.de/DE/newsroom/dossier/coronavirus/coronavirus-inhalt.html?cms_pos=6 https://www.pei.de/DE/newsroom/dossier/coronavirus/coronavir... [2] https://www.pei.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/newsroom/dossiers/sicherheitsberichte/sicherheitsbericht-27-12-20-bis-30-09-21.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=9 https://www.pei.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/newsroom/dossiers...
ekianjo 5y ago
> I'm reluctant to call bullshit on it, but it's not because you can't find something in English that it does not exist.
- onion2k 5y ago
  One of the amazing things about Google is that I can search in English and it'll actually search for things in every other language as well. So no, not that.
  - Ambolia 5y ago
    You can find a lot of hits if you use the following japanese headline: 新型コロナワクチン心筋炎「重大な副反応」厚労省、警戒度上げ Among them this one: https://mainichi.jp/articles/20211204/ddm/012/040/084000c https://mainichi.jp/articles/20211204/ddm/012/040/084000c Which seems from a major japanese newspaper if I'm not mistaken: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainichi_Shimbun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainichi_Shimbun
drukenemo 5y ago
Using the traditional question “cui bono” (to whom is it a benefit?), why would such a thing be faked?
- onion2k 5y ago
  why would such a thing be faked It's impossible to answer a question like that without sounding like an Internet nutjob, but intelligence forces around the world have been tracking disinformation campaigns about vaccines, politics, etc for a long time. Here's a reputable source from this year - https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-disinformation-campaign-aims-to-undermine-confidence-in-pfizer-other-covid-19-vaccines-u-s-officials-say-11615129200 https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-disinformation-campaign... The actual purpose of them is beyond me. I simply don't know why Russia, or China, or any nation state would do that sort of thing. It does happen though, so no doubt they have their reasons. "Because they can" maybe.
NoPie 5y ago
The use of "males" is common in medical literature. This probably is an evidence that the report is prepared by a medical writer instead of a journalist which gives more credence to its veracity. By itself this is a very boring article with very little information but something that bureaucrats need to write or something like that.
yehosef 5y ago
> you'd think an announcement from the health minister of G8 country would make more headlines. The people that pay for the headlines are not interested in this news.

Ambolia 5y ago

From Yahoo Japan: https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/c737f540fd3ae5a6b170ceb80770c5e1906adb3f https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/c737f540fd3ae5a6b170ceb807... The original seems to come from the Kyodo agency, but they don't have published it in english as far as I've seen. There's a video making rounds too but it looks a bit suspicious.

gizmo686 5y ago

There is nothing new about the vaccine in this report. Only a change in the labeling in Japan. Frankly, even for the Japanese this is not that interesting of a development, let alone internationally. Here is a US CDC page on the subject https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/my... I just got a booster over the weekend, and I can't tell you if this was listed in the consent form I skipped through. > It uses "males" instead of "men" in the image caption. That's very "Reddit-y" and not how journalists write. Using male/female instead of men/women is standard in medical writing.

0xbs 5y ago

Germany's Paul Ehrlich Institut (Germn federal agency, medical regulatory body and research institution for vaccines and biomedicines) periodically publishes vaccine security reports [1]. In the latest security report for Jan-Sep 2021 [2] (German only), it states in chapter 7.1.2 table 5 the rate of Myo-/Perikarditis per 100,000 vaccine doses of Pfizer (Corminaty) and Moderna (Spikevax) in different age groups: 11.41/100000 for age group 12-17 (based on 2 reports, hence unconfident) 11.71/100000 for age group 18-29 [1] https://www.pei.de/DE/newsroom/dossier/coronavirus/coronavirus-inhalt.html?cms_pos=6 https://www.pei.de/DE/newsroom/dossier/coronavirus/coronavir... [2] https://www.pei.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/newsroom/dossiers/sicherheitsberichte/sicherheitsbericht-27-12-20-bis-30-09-21.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=9 https://www.pei.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/newsroom/dossiers...

ekianjo 5y ago

> I'm reluctant to call bullshit on it, but it's not because you can't find something in English that it does not exist.

onion2k 5y ago
One of the amazing things about Google is that I can search in English and it'll actually search for things in every other language as well. So no, not that.
- Ambolia 5y ago
  You can find a lot of hits if you use the following japanese headline: 新型コロナワクチン心筋炎「重大な副反応」厚労省、警戒度上げ Among them this one: https://mainichi.jp/articles/20211204/ddm/012/040/084000c https://mainichi.jp/articles/20211204/ddm/012/040/084000c Which seems from a major japanese newspaper if I'm not mistaken: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainichi_Shimbun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainichi_Shimbun

drukenemo 5y ago

Using the traditional question “cui bono” (to whom is it a benefit?), why would such a thing be faked?

onion2k 5y ago
why would such a thing be faked It's impossible to answer a question like that without sounding like an Internet nutjob, but intelligence forces around the world have been tracking disinformation campaigns about vaccines, politics, etc for a long time. Here's a reputable source from this year - https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-disinformation-campaign-aims-to-undermine-confidence-in-pfizer-other-covid-19-vaccines-u-s-officials-say-11615129200 https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-disinformation-campaign... The actual purpose of them is beyond me. I simply don't know why Russia, or China, or any nation state would do that sort of thing. It does happen though, so no doubt they have their reasons. "Because they can" maybe.

NoPie 5y ago

The use of "males" is common in medical literature. This probably is an evidence that the report is prepared by a medical writer instead of a journalist which gives more credence to its veracity. By itself this is a very boring article with very little information but something that bureaucrats need to write or something like that.

yehosef 5y ago

> you'd think an announcement from the health minister of G8 country would make more headlines. The people that pay for the headlines are not interested in this news.