3 ms·

How is IPv6, a protocol that is superior to the IPv4 mess we have come up with to cope with the fact that 32 bits aren't enough to represent each unique compute

How is IPv6, a protocol that is superior to the IPv4 mess we have come up with to cope with the fact that 32 bits aren't enough to represent each unique computer, a privacy regression? Is the end-to-end principle of the internet a privacy regression too?

gtsop 5y ago
IPv6 enables insane precission of device tracking. A side effect of not having enough ipv4 addresses and using NAT is that all your home devices let's say, go out on the internet using only a single IP address. Also, the geo-location accuracy using ipv4 is at the level of a city. With ipv6 you can get to a geolocation accuracy of a building block and confidently target individual devices within ones home network since they will use unique ipv6 addresses. Surely, privacy minded people will find a way around those, but out of the box ipv6 is a privacy regression for the reasons listed above
- maccolgan 5y ago
  >IPv6 enables insane precission of device tracking. A side effect of not having enough ipv4 addresses and using NAT is that all your home devices let's say, go out on the internet using only a single IP address Use random addresses, no further words needed. If you are actually that paranoid, feel free to use stateless translation to change the host part of the IP. >Also, the geo-location accuracy using ipv4 is at the level of a city. With ipv6 you can get to a geolocation accuracy of a building block and confidently target individual devices within ones home network since they will use Unless your ISP is announcing unique /48s of individual building block, no. If your home router gets a static IPv4 address, the same problem prevails, not relevant. >Surely, privacy minded people will find a way around those, but out of the box ipv6 is a privacy regression for the reasons listed above Out of the box IPv6 offers the same privacy regressions as the original IPv4 before we fucked it to high hell. NAPT is a royal pain for any P2P protocol.
  - gtsop 5y ago
    So on the first part you are replying with i already said, that there will be workarounds, and om the second part you are replying with a condition that is half true and is most likely going to stop being true as years go by and ipv6 is adopted more and more. Not sure where this is going. There are people who already use ipv6 on their routers/pcs/mobiles and they don't even know it.

gtsop 5y ago

IPv6 enables insane precission of device tracking. A side effect of not having enough ipv4 addresses and using NAT is that all your home devices let's say, go out on the internet using only a single IP address. Also, the geo-location accuracy using ipv4 is at the level of a city. With ipv6 you can get to a geolocation accuracy of a building block and confidently target individual devices within ones home network since they will use unique ipv6 addresses. Surely, privacy minded people will find a way around those, but out of the box ipv6 is a privacy regression for the reasons listed above

maccolgan 5y ago
>IPv6 enables insane precission of device tracking. A side effect of not having enough ipv4 addresses and using NAT is that all your home devices let's say, go out on the internet using only a single IP address Use random addresses, no further words needed. If you are actually that paranoid, feel free to use stateless translation to change the host part of the IP. >Also, the geo-location accuracy using ipv4 is at the level of a city. With ipv6 you can get to a geolocation accuracy of a building block and confidently target individual devices within ones home network since they will use Unless your ISP is announcing unique /48s of individual building block, no. If your home router gets a static IPv4 address, the same problem prevails, not relevant. >Surely, privacy minded people will find a way around those, but out of the box ipv6 is a privacy regression for the reasons listed above Out of the box IPv6 offers the same privacy regressions as the original IPv4 before we fucked it to high hell. NAPT is a royal pain for any P2P protocol.
- gtsop 5y ago
  So on the first part you are replying with i already said, that there will be workarounds, and om the second part you are replying with a condition that is half true and is most likely going to stop being true as years go by and ipv6 is adopted more and more. Not sure where this is going. There are people who already use ipv6 on their routers/pcs/mobiles and they don't even know it.