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Why are you using legacy centralized web 2.0 platforms ruled by fiat money? Put your video on IPFS, give it an ens.domain, mint an NFT for it. With an eth<>file
by pornel 5y ago
Why are you using legacy centralized web 2.0 platforms ruled by fiat money? Put your video on IPFS, give it an ens.domain, mint an NFT for it. With an eth<>filecoin bridge it will fund its own censorship-resistance forever. That tech is great and has obsoleted web 2.0. Don't trust Google, self-govern!
- marginalia_nu 5y agoI can't tell if this is satire.
- isaacimagine 5y agoI think it is, but I can't tell if this is satire.
- dathinab 5y agoSame for me, it feels like it's in a uncanny valley between clearly satiric and something some (not all/many) people (from the Web3.0 & DeFi) community might say.
- dtech 5y agoJust another example of Poe's law
- bryanrasmussen 5y agoPoe's law: take the absinthe, or the absinthe takes you!
- JKCalhoun 5y agoYou and several parent comments can't tell it's satire. That is already telling.
- b0sk 5y agoPoe’s law
- speedgoose 5y agoIt must be.
- adamdonahue 5y agoThere's an opportunity here. Put the video on both YouTube and a blockchain, make it easy to find on the latter via the YouTube URI, then when one discovers a non-working link you YouTube you can pivot to the blockchain-based backup. Once enough people know about this hack it then, with a browser plug-in, censorship be gone! This is obviously off-the-cuff, undetailed thinking here, but an approach like this might make sense in the future.
- s_dev 5y agoHow does a YouTube 404 turn in to a working link? You don't control what You Tube displays on their 404.
- peteradio 5y agoMaybe get a mechanism of law passed which makes it difficult for platforms to sweep content from view in cases of changes of moderation. If youtube decies Charlie Bit Me is violent and they know longer wish host it, then they must provide some sort of redirect if video owner provides. I don't know?
- rnotaro 5y agoFun fact, Charlie Bit Me owners actually sold the video as an NFT and removed it from Youtube.
- mypastself 5y agoPresumably with the browser plugin. This would of course require all your users installing it.
- gifnamething 5y agoThis idea has provenance with SponsorBlock
- NavinF 5y agoEasy: Your extension looks at the HTTP status code and if it’s 404, query the distributed hash table for another copy of the video. Then replace the <video> element on the page with a different one that plays bytes from your callback function (Media Source Extensions) just like WebTorrent. (Note: There are alternatives to YouTube that already use WebTorrent to make videos harder to delete, but their content is incredibly hard to sort through. Instead of improving on YouTube by making filters optional, they just didn’t implement filters at all. So most of the videos in search results are scams or political) Dead comment that I can’t vouch for asks: >Why do you need Blockchain for this? I’m not sure if you need blockchain. I’d avoid it if possible because it’s expensive and slow. But you might not have a choice if you need a censorship resistant distributed log. >Why can't you just cross post on Rumble with the exact same title and make an extension which replaces 404d videos with the equivalently titled Rumble video? I’ve never heard of Rumble, but many have built YouTube alternatives only to run out of funding and end up on this list: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Deathwatch#Dead_as_a_Doornail https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Deathwatch#Dead_as_a_... Hell even my team has built a shitty YouTube alternative during a 1-day hackathon. The videos are downloaded peer-to-peer with webrtc and my site has better clustering/search than most *tubes; but of course the site is dead today and all the videos are inaccessible: https://github.com/NavinF/NodeVid.com https://github.com/NavinF/NodeVid.com
- gonab 5y agoLike any good satire, half truth.
- toyg 5y agoI would have taken it seriously before the "obsolete" bit gave it away as satire. Which is sad, because some of that stuff indeed has potential and should be used more (IPFS), but it cannot happen unless people take it seriously.
- ajross 5y agoFWIW: I think that causality is backwards. People "take seriously" things that are used for serious things, never the reverse. The history of technology is that everything starts as a toy or a hack.
- ehutch79 5y agoPoe's law
- 015a 5y agoWhy are you using new web 3.0 platforms ruled by distributed money? Put your video on AWS S3, give it a domain name, and put CloudFront in front of it. With a horizontal load balancer and autoscaling, resource provisioning isn't an issue. That tech is great, and web 3.0 isn't necessary. Don't trust the distributed web, trust AWS! Now, I can't tell if what I'm saying is satire. But it does, at least, make sense, right? Because they're all terms you know and have familiarity with. Don't dismiss something simply because you don't understand it. There's a ton of complexity in Web3. There's a ton of complexity in Web2; you just understand the complexity well enough to the point of it no longer being complex. Maybe its satire. Or, maybe; Then they laugh at you. Its hard to say at this stage.
- amne 5y agoSAVAGE !!! I love it :)))
- corobo 5y agoIs this like a parody of the Dropbox thing? Web3 is beyond the hill of magic vs technology for me currently, it's on the tolearn list. Is that actually the alternative to YouTube?
- Cthulhu_ 5y agoIt's an alternative to centralized video hosting, I wouldn't go as far as call it an alternative to youtube because it's the video platform you go to if you want the exposure, accessibility, and possibly monetization. That said, there's other (centralized) video hosting solutions you can go to if you're less technically inclined. Vimeo is a popular choice.
- corobo 5y agoI didn't know Vimeo was web3 already. Very progressive :P It's the web3 part that's not on my radar yet, honestly I'm happy with YouTube as-is until someone figures out discoverability
- reginold 5y agohttps://www.pinata.cloud/ https://www.pinata.cloud/ this could be a place to start! makes it easy to upload content and host it on IPFS.
- corobo 5y agoIf it's hosted with IPFS what are these folks charging for? Service wise ofc happy to pay for anything that makes my life easier but they appear to be charging by the storage?
- reginold 5y agoI'm wondering that as well so dug into the site. IPFS is a way to host and distribute files. It's not free. To have files distributed they need to be hosted somewhere. You can do this yourself by hosting an IPFS server at home or in the cloud. On IPFS this is called a "pin". Pinata host and serves your files to pin them on IPFS. That's why their list of services is that of a cloud provider. From their pricing/plans page (https://www.pinata.cloud/pricing https://www.pinata.cloud/pricing) Fast Global CDN 100GB bandwidth included per month Additional bandwidth at $0.05/gb Unlimited storage at $0.15/gb Here's a blog article that covers Pinata's primary use case - web3 hosting for NFTs https://medium.com/pinata/the-file-requirements-for-nfts-a20ea3ac524b https://medium.com/pinata/the-file-requirements-for-nfts-a20...
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- sebow 5y agoOr maybe just use another hosting platform.There are at least 5 good reliable choices that are not from "FAANG"-tier platforms.
- ThalesX 5y agoI'm not sure why people are calling this satire. If you want to host a video, make it available through a URI, protect your ownership rights and then make sure it gets hosted for as long as possible, this is a way to do it.
- meltedcapacitor 5y agoThe satire element comes the fact that doing it that way, while technically flawless, will get the creator as large an audience as piping the video to /dev/null.
- KptMarchewa 5y ago"flawless" I can't tell if this is satire.
- 1_player 5y agoCertainly it can't be easier than going to my YouTube account and pressing upload.
- ThalesX 5y agoOh, I missed on that. And yes, that is true. I can't help think that for a hackathon, it's a pretty good use case for something like this. The organizers can then take the files from wherever and post them to their YouTube channel for exposure and monetization if that's what they want. I'd be furious if I ended up posting some video, mandatory on YouTube, for a fun week-end hackathon and ending up with my entire YouTube account suspended. So if I ever do end up organizing a hackathon or similar event, I'll keep in mind that it might be better to ask for the video files as just files and then handling the posting on my side so as to not expose participants to this risk. If participants want to ensure their names are linked to the video bits used from their films, they can go through the all the blockhainy-web3-y trouble, if not they can just zip them.
- fsflover 5y agoBut you don't have to put the video exclusively to IPFS, PeerTube and co.
- jsemrau 5y agoWell the post might be meant in satire but I believe that the eyeballs->advertising monetization model is not only inefficient, but also weighs quick to consume crap content over quality content. Earning directly money through gifting/tipping and creator coin investments can be more profitable for the creator if implemented in the right way. There are social blockchains that are not ETH (which I believe is actually not worth it's money) are out there solving the problem right now.
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- nathias 5y agoor just odysee
- alfl 5y agoThis, but non-ironically, and with distributed discovery.
- fnord77 5y agoWhy are you posting on a legacy centralized web 2.0 platform?
- ldehaan 5y agoWith "moderators", ie the stalin loving braintrust that is HN, but it's better than Facefuk and Twatter, for now, I said that about twatter though, and I quit that a while back.
- dr-detroit 5y agoOP was trying to monetize. Now I see you are trying to monetize. This is a cultural issue of greedy pigs who think they don't need to work hard.
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- johnwheeler 5y agoUhh so people might see it?