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The issue title alludes to the project having little merit other than its non-copyleft license. I think closing the discussion like that was entirely the right

The issue title alludes to the project having little merit other than its non-copyleft license. I think closing the discussion like that was entirely the right choice; this project already had to deal with a prior issue from FSF-affiliated individuals complaining about the license choice. It isn't the FSF's job to go around telling people their license choice is wrong on their issue trackers. This is just a waste of everyone's time.

belter 5y ago
To quote a famous event with the group ABBA. When they started singing they realized too late there was already a canned tuna fish company with the same name. The story says the owner told them: "I wont make you any problems as long as you do not to plan to sell fish." As the project is called Coreutils...Its not to the FSF to tell others what license to use but its reasonable to ask for a clarification the project uses a different license. As we seem to try to save time for everybody...Do you know if the project has a public reference, with the rationale for the current choice of license? ( Note: No criticism implied concerning their current choice)
- eesmith 5y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABBA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABBA reports something different: > Fred Bronson reported for Billboard that Fältskog told him in a 1988 interview that "[ABBA] had to ask permission and the factory said, 'O.K., as long as you don't make us feel ashamed for what you're doing'
  - belter 5y ago
    I am fairly certain I saw Benny Andersson telling the story like this in a documentary many eons ago, but my ABBA fu fails me now and cant find anything to back me up. This is an interesting take on the story but now have to get back to work... https://youtu.be/gC09BnFmQ30?t=118 https://youtu.be/gC09BnFmQ30?t=118
    - eesmith 5y ago
      Here's what I found using a Google Book search. https://books.google.com/books?id=CILUDgAAQBAJ&pg=PT297&dq=%22abba%22+%22fish%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjwopGK9s_0AhUNSPEDHcyODTwQ6AF6BAgDEAI#v=onepage&q=%22abba%22%20%22fish%22&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=CILUDgAAQBAJ&pg=PT297&dq=%... has: > Stig phone up the managing director who enthusiastically approved, the only condition being that the group wouldn't discredit his company. https://books.google.com/books?id=6lu_BgAAQBAJ&pg=PT57&dq=%22abba%22+%22fish%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjwopGK9s_0AhUNSPEDHcyODTwQ6AF6BAgHEAI#v=onepage&q=%22abba%22%20%22fish%22&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=6lu_BgAAQBAJ&pg=PT57&dq=%2... says: > There was just one tiny problem with formalising the anagram; ABBA was also the name of Sweden's premier brand of canned fish. Fortunately, after some brief negotiations, Stig was able to placate the fish firm and they gave ABBA, the pop group, their blessing. https://books.google.com/books?id=-hkbqflhfKoC&pg=PT7&dq=%22abba%22+%22fish%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj7j9PX98_0AhWsSPEDHTyNC_44HhDoAXoECAsQAg#v=onepage&q=%22abba%22%20%22fish%22&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=-hkbqflhfKoC&pg=PT7&dq=%22... > ... the name was also that of a Swedish company which sold canned fish; whose directors were worried lest ABBA the quartet should bring the name into disrepute, but after Stig Anderson had assured them that ABBA were aiming to publicise the name in a very positive way, the convern abated.
      - belter 5y ago
        All this stuff happened before Google come to existence. I recall a somewhat humorous conversation with a friend about an exotic Portuguese rock band. He insistent could not have existed, because he could not find anything about them via a Google search! What become of the ABBA Seafood brand has a take on the history: https://www.orkla.se/brands/abba/ https://www.orkla.se/brands/abba/ "The Abba brand and the pop group ABBA have been the subject of some confusion over the years. During the 1970s, Abbas' switchboard usually received calls from Swedish and foreign fans who, if they were not allowed to talk to any of the group's members, could settle for a signed idol card. Before the group Abba broke through in 1974, they actually called from the record company Polar and asked for the green light to use the name. Per Brolund, then HR manager at Abba, gave his consent to a reservation. "That the young people behaved and did not damage Abbas' good reputation."

belter 5y ago

To quote a famous event with the group ABBA. When they started singing they realized too late there was already a canned tuna fish company with the same name. The story says the owner told them: "I wont make you any problems as long as you do not to plan to sell fish." As the project is called Coreutils...Its not to the FSF to tell others what license to use but its reasonable to ask for a clarification the project uses a different license. As we seem to try to save time for everybody...Do you know if the project has a public reference, with the rationale for the current choice of license? ( Note: No criticism implied concerning their current choice)

eesmith 5y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABBA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABBA reports something different: > Fred Bronson reported for Billboard that Fältskog told him in a 1988 interview that "[ABBA] had to ask permission and the factory said, 'O.K., as long as you don't make us feel ashamed for what you're doing'
- belter 5y ago
  I am fairly certain I saw Benny Andersson telling the story like this in a documentary many eons ago, but my ABBA fu fails me now and cant find anything to back me up. This is an interesting take on the story but now have to get back to work... https://youtu.be/gC09BnFmQ30?t=118 https://youtu.be/gC09BnFmQ30?t=118
  - eesmith 5y ago
    Here's what I found using a Google Book search. https://books.google.com/books?id=CILUDgAAQBAJ&pg=PT297&dq=%22abba%22+%22fish%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjwopGK9s_0AhUNSPEDHcyODTwQ6AF6BAgDEAI#v=onepage&q=%22abba%22%20%22fish%22&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=CILUDgAAQBAJ&pg=PT297&dq=%... has: > Stig phone up the managing director who enthusiastically approved, the only condition being that the group wouldn't discredit his company. https://books.google.com/books?id=6lu_BgAAQBAJ&pg=PT57&dq=%22abba%22+%22fish%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjwopGK9s_0AhUNSPEDHcyODTwQ6AF6BAgHEAI#v=onepage&q=%22abba%22%20%22fish%22&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=6lu_BgAAQBAJ&pg=PT57&dq=%2... says: > There was just one tiny problem with formalising the anagram; ABBA was also the name of Sweden's premier brand of canned fish. Fortunately, after some brief negotiations, Stig was able to placate the fish firm and they gave ABBA, the pop group, their blessing. https://books.google.com/books?id=-hkbqflhfKoC&pg=PT7&dq=%22abba%22+%22fish%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj7j9PX98_0AhWsSPEDHTyNC_44HhDoAXoECAsQAg#v=onepage&q=%22abba%22%20%22fish%22&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=-hkbqflhfKoC&pg=PT7&dq=%22... > ... the name was also that of a Swedish company which sold canned fish; whose directors were worried lest ABBA the quartet should bring the name into disrepute, but after Stig Anderson had assured them that ABBA were aiming to publicise the name in a very positive way, the convern abated.
    - belter 5y ago
      All this stuff happened before Google come to existence. I recall a somewhat humorous conversation with a friend about an exotic Portuguese rock band. He insistent could not have existed, because he could not find anything about them via a Google search! What become of the ABBA Seafood brand has a take on the history: https://www.orkla.se/brands/abba/ https://www.orkla.se/brands/abba/ "The Abba brand and the pop group ABBA have been the subject of some confusion over the years. During the 1970s, Abbas' switchboard usually received calls from Swedish and foreign fans who, if they were not allowed to talk to any of the group's members, could settle for a signed idol card. Before the group Abba broke through in 1974, they actually called from the record company Polar and asked for the green light to use the name. Per Brolund, then HR manager at Abba, gave his consent to a reservation. "That the young people behaved and did not damage Abbas' good reputation."