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> nobody should consume cannabis daily Based on... what? Your opinion? Your parents? Your god? Because it's certainly not based on fact.

by junon 5y ago

darthrupert 5y ago
It's not good for you when used so frequently. Once or twice a week is fine, perhaps even good for you due to relaxing and mood-enhancing effects. Every day is stretching it and risking a dependence. But hey, I don't have to power to forbid you anything. I'm just saying how it is. You can just choose to ignore this and keep using every day.
- junon 5y ago
  But you've not stated any studies backing this up. You're just passing by like a judgmental parent.
  - darthrupert 5y ago
    And why does that seem to worry you so much? Do you worry that I'm right, or am I offending you by saying this?
    - junon 5y ago
      Because such assertions should be based on evidence.
      - darthrupert 5y ago
        No, I think you're wrong. When we're talking about recreational drugs, those who claim or imply that they're safe have the burden of proof.
        junon 5y ago
        Err, no, that's not how it works. You're the one who came to this conversation stating "nobody should use it daily", implying they are dangerous. The burden of proof falls on you.
Thorentis 5y ago
Not based on fact? Which facts are those? Certainly not these ones I'm guessing? https://www.uq.edu.au/news/article/2021/01/long-term-study-reveals-harm-regular-cannabis-use https://www.uq.edu.au/news/article/2021/01/long-term-study-r... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://scholar.google.com.au/scholar_url%3Furl%3Dhttps://accp1.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdfdirect/10.1002/j.1552-4604.2002.tb06002.x%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26ei%3DLNqtYbWQFpD2yAT97YOQBw%26scisig%3DAAGBfm17ev_8wUrCYHk8-axSnwdvSihAaA%26oi%3Dscholarr&ved=2ahUKEwiXgq6y8M70AhVMzzgGHQTTBOsQgAMoAHoECAMQAg&usg=AOvVaw0j45yoY_LJcT_KWpajE0tG https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https:/...
- lillecarl 5y ago
  Worth noting that cannabis is illegal in Australia, so if anything it could point towards people willing to ignore the law are more likely to X and Y rather than the cannabis being the cause. But I'm just playing devils advocate here, I doubt daily consumption of any stimulant is great in the long term, but cannabis is probably not worse than anything else really.
  - GordonS 5y ago
    Just as an FYI, medical cannabis is legal in Australia, though AFAIK it is only available privately, and the system is over-burdened with regulations and costs (similar to the situation in the UK).
  - nicoburns 5y ago
    > I doubt daily consumption of any stimulant is great in the long term, but cannabis is probably not worse than anything else really. I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say that cannabis is a lot worse than caffeine in this respect. I have known quite a few people who smoked cannabis daily, and while they didn't seem to notice they were mentally slow (compared to their normal selves) and almost entirely unmotivated. Still better than alcoholism of course. But we shouldn't pretend that their aren't issues with every day cannabis use.
    - 5y ago
pmarreck 5y ago
Not every counterargument or counterevidence to your worldview is an appeal to taste, authority, tradition or religion. https://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2014/10/07/what-20-years-of-research-has-taught-us-about-the-chronic-effects-of-marijuana/?sh=17c0795017be https://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2014/10/07/what-20... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabis That said, outcomes may vary by individual, daily quantity, and whatever strain was most commonly smoked, and frankly, if it had been decriminalized and taxed instead of demonized from the get-go, research would have been much further along by now (can't exactly easily study an illegal substance).
codebolt 5y ago
Based on the fact that I've personally seen the detrimental effects it can have on some peoples mental health.

> nobody should consume cannabis daily Based on... what? Your opinion? Your parents? Your god? Because it's certainly not based on fact.

by junon 5y ago

> nobody should consume cannabis daily Based on... what? Your opinion? Your parents? Your god? Because it's certainly not based on fact.

darthrupert 5y ago

It's not good for you when used so frequently. Once or twice a week is fine, perhaps even good for you due to relaxing and mood-enhancing effects. Every day is stretching it and risking a dependence. But hey, I don't have to power to forbid you anything. I'm just saying how it is. You can just choose to ignore this and keep using every day.

junon 5y ago
But you've not stated any studies backing this up. You're just passing by like a judgmental parent.
- darthrupert 5y ago
  And why does that seem to worry you so much? Do you worry that I'm right, or am I offending you by saying this?
  - junon 5y ago
    Because such assertions should be based on evidence.
    - darthrupert 5y ago
      No, I think you're wrong. When we're talking about recreational drugs, those who claim or imply that they're safe have the burden of proof.
      - junon 5y ago
        Err, no, that's not how it works. You're the one who came to this conversation stating "nobody should use it daily", implying they are dangerous. The burden of proof falls on you.

Thorentis 5y ago

Not based on fact? Which facts are those? Certainly not these ones I'm guessing? https://www.uq.edu.au/news/article/2021/01/long-term-study-reveals-harm-regular-cannabis-use https://www.uq.edu.au/news/article/2021/01/long-term-study-r... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://scholar.google.com.au/scholar_url%3Furl%3Dhttps://accp1.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdfdirect/10.1002/j.1552-4604.2002.tb06002.x%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26ei%3DLNqtYbWQFpD2yAT97YOQBw%26scisig%3DAAGBfm17ev_8wUrCYHk8-axSnwdvSihAaA%26oi%3Dscholarr&ved=2ahUKEwiXgq6y8M70AhVMzzgGHQTTBOsQgAMoAHoECAMQAg&usg=AOvVaw0j45yoY_LJcT_KWpajE0tG https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https:/...

lillecarl 5y ago
Worth noting that cannabis is illegal in Australia, so if anything it could point towards people willing to ignore the law are more likely to X and Y rather than the cannabis being the cause. But I'm just playing devils advocate here, I doubt daily consumption of any stimulant is great in the long term, but cannabis is probably not worse than anything else really.
- GordonS 5y ago
  Just as an FYI, medical cannabis is legal in Australia, though AFAIK it is only available privately, and the system is over-burdened with regulations and costs (similar to the situation in the UK).
- nicoburns 5y ago
  > I doubt daily consumption of any stimulant is great in the long term, but cannabis is probably not worse than anything else really. I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say that cannabis is a lot worse than caffeine in this respect. I have known quite a few people who smoked cannabis daily, and while they didn't seem to notice they were mentally slow (compared to their normal selves) and almost entirely unmotivated. Still better than alcoholism of course. But we shouldn't pretend that their aren't issues with every day cannabis use.
  - 5y ago

pmarreck 5y ago

Not every counterargument or counterevidence to your worldview is an appeal to taste, authority, tradition or religion. https://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2014/10/07/what-20-years-of-research-has-taught-us-about-the-chronic-effects-of-marijuana/?sh=17c0795017be https://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2014/10/07/what-20... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabis That said, outcomes may vary by individual, daily quantity, and whatever strain was most commonly smoked, and frankly, if it had been decriminalized and taxed instead of demonized from the get-go, research would have been much further along by now (can't exactly easily study an illegal substance).

codebolt 5y ago

Based on the fact that I've personally seen the detrimental effects it can have on some peoples mental health.