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Sony Finally Fully Unveils Its Android Tabs, The Sony S and P
- JonLim 15y agoThey looks interesting - if they can be snappy and responsive and work well, I would give it a shot. My only reservation is that it would be proprietary Sony everything that it would work with, which means that it probably sucks when trying to use in conjunction with anything other than that. Yay for more competition!
- lallysingh 15y agoTo be fair, I can take an ancient 512mb memory stick and it still fits into most sony devices I have now. Sometimes proprietariness leads to consistency.
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- cryptoz 15y ago"It’s not about who makes them first, but who [spies on you the most].” I love Android and I'm so happy for its success. But I cannot recommend these tablets to anyone due to my boycott of Sony. Their lack of moral values and the way they treat their customers has led me to not just boycott but to actively campaign against them. Say no to Sony.
- pavel_lishin 15y agoCan you cite some examples, aside from the somewhat recent chain of security flaws that leaked customer information all over the intertubes?
- dman 15y agoHere are a couple 1) Removing ability to run linux on ps3's after they had already been sold to customers. 2) Rootkit on cd's 3) How they handled the geohotz case was not ideal in my opinion.
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- chrischen 15y ago1) It was an optional removal. You had to voluntarily update your PS3 system and they no longer wanted to maintain linux support in future updates.
- dman 15y agoThis was arstechnica's summary of the 'voluntariness' - """It's pointed out that this update is strictly voluntary, although if you don't download the new firmware you won't be able to connect to the PlayStation Network, play any games online, play any games or Blu-ray movies that "require" the new firmware, play any files kept on a media server, or download any future updates. To put it simply, if you don't grab the update, the system will become useless to you as a gaming or media machine."""
- chrischen 15y agoNot useless, you can still play games on it and play blu-ray movies. I don't think there are many blu-ray movies that "require" new firmware. Playstation Network is a free bonus service which isn't necessarily unconditionally guaranteed to you based on the purchase price of a PS3. > "To put it simply, if you don't grab the update, the system will become useless to you as a gaming or media machine." Not true. I didn't update my PS3 for for over half a year and during that period i encountered no problems playing my existing games or new games, or any of my blu-ray discs. Most PS3 users do not care about the OtherOS feature. I installed linux on my PS3 and frankly it was quite useless. I'm glad Sony did not keep diverting resources into maintaining that feature for a minority of people at possibly the expense of other features. I don't understand why people expect Sony to keep supporting legacy features for a small minority of people who purchased one of the first models of the PS3? Updates as well as the PSN are NOT obligated by Sony after you purchase the PS3. Otherwise, 20 years from now, do we all have to right to complain to Sony that their system has stopped being updated? No. That would be absurd. If you want their free software updates and free online features, then you would obviously have to accept the separate terms for those features. If not, your PS3 is still perfectly as functional as the day you bought it.
- cryptoz 15y agoI was specifically referring to their installation of rootkits on consumer PCs through the Sony BMG CD channel. Also, their attitude about it. From Wikipedia: > Thomas Hesse, Sony BMG's Global Digital Business President, told reporter Neda Ulaby, "Most people, I think, don't even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it?"
- CamperBob 15y agoBut remember, he was fired for that, and was lucky to dodge a lawsuit from his own employer.
- pavel_lishin 15y agoWas he? I can't find any news story about it.
- CamperBob 15y agoOh, that must be because nothing even remotely like that happened. Lesson for the customer: Buy stuff from somebody else.
- mortenjorck 15y agoThe rootkit debacle was six years ago, and was perpetrated by a business unit that is effectively siloed from the one that manufactures consumer electronics. I'm not saying your apparently indefinite boycott is unjustified; what happened under the Sony name in 2005 happened on the same watch that everything else in all its myriad corporate structures happens. What I am saying is that corporately, Sony is a complex beast, and one business unit's missteps are not necessarily representative of another.
- sliverstorm 15y agoYeah, but it's easier to just hate the whole thing. Similar to McDonalds- the Ronald McDonald Charity is associated with the fast-food giant, so obviously it is deserving of our disgust. [/mockery]
- wardrox 15y agoAre there any alternatives? I can't think of any companies off hand who aren't morally bankrupt in at least one regard.
- CamperBob 15y agoThere's holding your nose to deal with flawed companies with questionable policies... and then there's battered-spouse syndrome. At this point, anyone who expects a square deal from Sony falls into the latter category.
- iacvlvs 15y agoIt's so good to know I'm not the only one still boycotting them! I was actually starting to reconsider it when the GeoHot thing happened and renewed my resolve. In this case, I don't think we're missing out on anything: if their Android tablets are anything like their Android phones they're going to be locked down to the point of uselessness and crammed to the rafters with proprietary rubbish.
- SandB0x 15y agoWho in their right mind decides to name a service "Qriocity"?
- pavel_lishin 15y agoI'm holding out for Qriocity Xtreme, myself.
- Qa8BBatwHxK8Pu 15y agoNOTHING looks better with iPad in hand. HP's didn't have the right rounded corner. Sony's don't have the right back.
- Qa8BBatwHxK8Pu 15y agoNOTHING looks better with iPad in hand. HP's didn't have the right rounded corner radius. Sony's don't have the right back.
- nerdo 15y agoThe iPad DS is kind of interesting. I look forward to the possibility of acquiring one in a $99 firesale in the not-too-distant future.
- kierank 15y agoI really hope calling tablets "tabs" doesn't become a new fad.
- WayneDB 15y agoI hope people start using the word faddle, fiddle-faddle, fadaise or fatuus again instead of just "fad" :)
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- georgemcbay 15y agoI agree. Asus and Acer seem to be the only respectable Android tablet manufacturers that get that pricing matters (quite a bit). Yeah, people are willing to pay for quality, but given the huge ecosystem advantages the iPad has right now, your Android device would have to be many times superior to the iPad at the same price to think of competing. Meanwhile Android tablet makers are producing tablets that are often worse than the iPad 2 in ways that really matter (eg. even many of the high-end ones using crappy TN panels) and cost as much, if not more. The HTC Jetstream is even worse, as the rumored price for that one is $700 ON CONTRACT (with AT&T), and $850 off contract. I don't even know how a decision to make that device at that pricepoint got made, but it is completely absurd.
- calloc 15y agoWhere did "Tabs" come from? To me it conjures the image of little sheets of paper (acid) and or pills ... when did this start being used to describe tablet devices?
- wmf 15y agoAFAIK Mark Weiser of PARC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubiquitous_computing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubiquitous_computing