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Lion is not Vista. Vista (IMHO) had a rotten core where as Lion doesn't. There are, however, issues that I suspect will be fully resolved via another update or

by dadro 15y ago

Lion is not Vista. Vista (IMHO) had a rotten core where as Lion doesn't. There are, however, issues that I suspect will be fully resolved via another update or two. When I upgraded to Lion I experienced a few minor stability issues (particularly with Finder) so I performed a clean install. Have had no issues since. I would be curious to see stability of a machine that has been upgraded from 10.5 -> 10.6 -> 10.7 vs one that has simply had a clean install of 10.7. [EDIT as I got downvoted presumably for knocking on Vista] Vista shipped with the version 6.0 kernel. This was known to be a fragmented, "consumer grade" kernel largely based on Win XP. The 6000 kernel build had so many issues that SP1 completely upgraded the kernel to the improved 6.0.6001 which was essentially the Server 2k8 kernel. It was an improvement but too little, to late.

commandar 15y ago
>Vista (IMHO) had a rotten core Windows 7 would suggest you're dead wrong about this. W7 is largely Vista with some polish and a rebranding.
- dadro 15y ago
  I'm not suggesting that at all. I think W7 is arguably the best OS Microsoft has released (except maybe for Win2k). At the time of Vista Microsoft was managing 2 seperate Kernels, one for consumers and one for servers. The 6000 build Vista was based off was (IMHO) a more bloated XP build. They made a great move by consolidating to their Server kernel. Windows 7 reflects this in its speed and stability.
  - commandar 15y ago
    Vista SP1 and Server 2008 shipped with the same kernel: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463415 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463415 MS has also very explicitly said that the W7 kernel is built on top of what they did with Vista: http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2008/05/ms-no-new-kernel-for-windows-7-same-requirements-as-vista.ars http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2008/05/ms-no-new-kern... W7 is nothing more than an evolution of what they did with Vista. Vista and W7 have far more in common with each other than either does with XP.
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  - StrawberryFrog 15y ago
    > Vista (IMHO) had a rotten core ... I think W7 is arguably the best OS Microsoft has released You are overly negative on Vista and overly positive in Win7. I think you fell for the hype. The differences between them are minor.
  - dadro 15y ago
    Vista shipped with 6.0.6000. Build 6000 = BAD Vista SP1 RTM shipped with 6.0.6001. Build 6001 = GOOD http://apcmag.com/microsoft_replaces_vista_kernel_in_sp1.htm http://apcmag.com/microsoft_replaces_vista_kernel_in_sp1.htm

by dadro 15y ago

commandar 15y ago

>Vista (IMHO) had a rotten core Windows 7 would suggest you're dead wrong about this. W7 is largely Vista with some polish and a rebranding.

dadro 15y ago
I'm not suggesting that at all. I think W7 is arguably the best OS Microsoft has released (except maybe for Win2k). At the time of Vista Microsoft was managing 2 seperate Kernels, one for consumers and one for servers. The 6000 build Vista was based off was (IMHO) a more bloated XP build. They made a great move by consolidating to their Server kernel. Windows 7 reflects this in its speed and stability.
- commandar 15y ago
  Vista SP1 and Server 2008 shipped with the same kernel: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463415 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg463415 MS has also very explicitly said that the W7 kernel is built on top of what they did with Vista: http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2008/05/ms-no-new-kernel-for-windows-7-same-requirements-as-vista.ars http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2008/05/ms-no-new-kern... W7 is nothing more than an evolution of what they did with Vista. Vista and W7 have far more in common with each other than either does with XP.
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- StrawberryFrog 15y ago
  > Vista (IMHO) had a rotten core ... I think W7 is arguably the best OS Microsoft has released You are overly negative on Vista and overly positive in Win7. I think you fell for the hype. The differences between them are minor.
- dadro 15y ago
  Vista shipped with 6.0.6000. Build 6000 = BAD Vista SP1 RTM shipped with 6.0.6001. Build 6001 = GOOD http://apcmag.com/microsoft_replaces_vista_kernel_in_sp1.htm http://apcmag.com/microsoft_replaces_vista_kernel_in_sp1.htm