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> nobody should consume cannabis daily. Only a sith etc.. You do know there are low THC strains available? And that there are people who self medicate with c

> nobody should consume cannabis daily. Only a sith etc.. You do know there are low THC strains available? And that there are people who self medicate with cannabis for scores of reasons? What exactly are you scared is going to happen to these people? An increased risk of bronchitis? Some people would consider that a great trade for reduction of chronic pain, nausea, or seizures.

nefitty 5y ago
Medical use notwithstanding, people who use cannabis on a daily basis will probably tend to produce and pursue bad ideas. I've been there when I was younger. That state of mind is like turning the temperature up on the generative function in the mind. Lots of exciting, weird shit reveals itself to your conscious perception. On the other hand, our brains probably evolved to favor adaptive ideation. If that system's filters are always tweaked or turned off, then eventually the ideation will be misaligned with the "sober" environment.
- hypertele-Xii 5y ago
  > people who use cannabis on a daily basis will probably tend to produce and pursue bad ideas I'm convinced people just produce and pursue bad ideas in general. That's why our society functions best by rewarding people with good ideas, and making damn sure everybody knows the core ones, from language to mathematics. Every idea starts out bad, anyway. That's what design, engineering, and craft are for: Making ideas better until they're useful, beautiful, or good enough to experiment further with.
- mandmandam 5y ago
  That's a fair and interesting point, worth looking at. I personally think that you're more right than wrong, and that while cannabis is great for idea generation, idea execution is somewhat hampered. But as has been pointed out, people are dumb. 90% of everything is bad. Remember when some guy came up with a "juice machine" that just squeezes capri-sun style juice pouches, that you got as a subscription service? And people gave him millions of dollars to build and market the thing? And were surprised when it failed spectacularly?
pawelmurias 5y ago
> What exactly are you scared is going to happen to these people? From observing people who are smoking multiple times per day (even 4+): An extremely happy-go-lucky attitude, often problems with memory and periodical total idiocy (while being baked of their goddam mind). They also tend to have little enjoyment due to increased tolerance and are mostly addicted (being sober is not comfortable for them).
- mandmandam 5y ago
  Sounds like they're smoking high THC strains, and not for medical reasons. Did you miss that part of the comment? Ss for the dependency, I am aware of no study that shows lingering effects on anything after two weeks off. And it's much easier to break a cannabis dependency than, say, an alcohol dependency or most others.
bryans 5y ago
I smoke every day, but I've also come close to dying from it[0] on a number of occasions. There are definitely potential risks, but with that said, I completely agree with your points. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid_hyperemesis_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid_hyperemesis_syndro...
- hypertele-Xii 5y ago
  "This article needs more medical references for verification [...]"
  - bryans 5y ago
    There are dozens of studies and hundreds of articles from every reputable source imaginable. Feel free to Google something sometime instead of trollishly dismissing a legitimate medical condition that people have died from. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29768651/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29768651/
  - pmarreck 5y ago
    if this is the medical problem that the dude himself almost died from, I'm pretty sure there's some validity to it
- mandmandam 5y ago
  Thanks, I actually hadn't heard of that. Did you try drinking more water?
- sudosteph 5y ago
  Someone close to me suffered from this as well. It was pretty hellish. Even when it's not life-threatening, it made it pretty much impossible to go anywhere without weed accessible to keep it from triggering on withdrawal. He finally quit altogether which cured it, but lost 50 pounds in a few months because the CHS symptoms kept persisting for that long after quitting. We're pretty sure high-potency (legal) dabs were tied to his case, but regardless, it's very troubling to see people in the comments so dismissive on the science of CHS (and how much more common it has become in the past few years in particular).
darthrupert 5y ago
I'm worried that people who use it daily will compound the negative effects (memory effects being the most signifi ant, especially for us knowledge workers) and develop dependence. I actually approve of cannabis for recreational use, but in moderation.

nefitty 5y ago

Medical use notwithstanding, people who use cannabis on a daily basis will probably tend to produce and pursue bad ideas. I've been there when I was younger. That state of mind is like turning the temperature up on the generative function in the mind. Lots of exciting, weird shit reveals itself to your conscious perception. On the other hand, our brains probably evolved to favor adaptive ideation. If that system's filters are always tweaked or turned off, then eventually the ideation will be misaligned with the "sober" environment.

hypertele-Xii 5y ago
> people who use cannabis on a daily basis will probably tend to produce and pursue bad ideas I'm convinced people just produce and pursue bad ideas in general. That's why our society functions best by rewarding people with good ideas, and making damn sure everybody knows the core ones, from language to mathematics. Every idea starts out bad, anyway. That's what design, engineering, and craft are for: Making ideas better until they're useful, beautiful, or good enough to experiment further with.
mandmandam 5y ago
That's a fair and interesting point, worth looking at. I personally think that you're more right than wrong, and that while cannabis is great for idea generation, idea execution is somewhat hampered. But as has been pointed out, people are dumb. 90% of everything is bad. Remember when some guy came up with a "juice machine" that just squeezes capri-sun style juice pouches, that you got as a subscription service? And people gave him millions of dollars to build and market the thing? And were surprised when it failed spectacularly?

pawelmurias 5y ago

> What exactly are you scared is going to happen to these people? From observing people who are smoking multiple times per day (even 4+): An extremely happy-go-lucky attitude, often problems with memory and periodical total idiocy (while being baked of their goddam mind). They also tend to have little enjoyment due to increased tolerance and are mostly addicted (being sober is not comfortable for them).

mandmandam 5y ago
Sounds like they're smoking high THC strains, and not for medical reasons. Did you miss that part of the comment? Ss for the dependency, I am aware of no study that shows lingering effects on anything after two weeks off. And it's much easier to break a cannabis dependency than, say, an alcohol dependency or most others.

bryans 5y ago

I smoke every day, but I've also come close to dying from it[0] on a number of occasions. There are definitely potential risks, but with that said, I completely agree with your points. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid_hyperemesis_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid_hyperemesis_syndro...

hypertele-Xii 5y ago
"This article needs more medical references for verification [...]"
- bryans 5y ago
  There are dozens of studies and hundreds of articles from every reputable source imaginable. Feel free to Google something sometime instead of trollishly dismissing a legitimate medical condition that people have died from. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29768651/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29768651/
- pmarreck 5y ago
  if this is the medical problem that the dude himself almost died from, I'm pretty sure there's some validity to it
mandmandam 5y ago
Thanks, I actually hadn't heard of that. Did you try drinking more water?
sudosteph 5y ago
Someone close to me suffered from this as well. It was pretty hellish. Even when it's not life-threatening, it made it pretty much impossible to go anywhere without weed accessible to keep it from triggering on withdrawal. He finally quit altogether which cured it, but lost 50 pounds in a few months because the CHS symptoms kept persisting for that long after quitting. We're pretty sure high-potency (legal) dabs were tied to his case, but regardless, it's very troubling to see people in the comments so dismissive on the science of CHS (and how much more common it has become in the past few years in particular).

darthrupert 5y ago

I'm worried that people who use it daily will compound the negative effects (memory effects being the most signifi ant, especially for us knowledge workers) and develop dependence. I actually approve of cannabis for recreational use, but in moderation.