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Whats the price difference here? Doesn't seem worth the effort of hitting up a dealer unless you're picking up a couple other party platters.

carabiner 5y ago
It's in the article.
- kelnos 5y ago
  Right, 1%-5%. But I don't think I'd care to deal with illegal product and any possible (even if unlikely) headaches around it just to save $1-$5 for every $100 spent. Seems kinda foolish. But yeah, I suppose if you're also picking up some illegal stuff, makes sense to make it a one-stop shopping trip.
  - Talanes 5y ago
    People buying from dealers aren't considering the illegality in the choice at all, though. They're a choice between continuing to buy from someone they know vs entering a storefront that is going to make them provide a bunch of PII on the first visit, which also costs more.
    - kafkaIncarnate 5y ago
      For me the price was worth it to make "the person I know" become a "person I no longer knew".
pjbeam 5y ago
Dealers are more likely to make house calls?
- colechristensen 5y ago
  I don’t know, when I lived in Mountain View I could get (legal) cannabis delivered faster than pizza.
  - adolph 5y ago
    In pizza's defense it isn't often delivered in a "bake at home" state.
  - tschwimmer 5y ago
    This is not as big of an endorsement as you might think. I live in the Peninsula and I once ordered pizza from one of the big chains and it came at perfect room temperature after like an hour. I called the place to complain and they said they would refund me if I was willing to give the pizza back (!). Sure enough, about 45 minutes later a pizza guy came around and I tendered the pizza (minus a single bite) back to him. Not the most sterling benchmark.
- Stratoscope 5y ago
  Plenty of legitimate cannabis dispensaries have home delivery too.
dbavaria 5y ago
Perhaps it's more about supporting your local small business?
oceanghost 5y ago
I don't smoke weed, (not for moral reasons, I just hate it), but the incentive structures are really weird. My read on the situation is... Government wants to tax the weed and ensure its safe. So there are a ton of regulations which require you to do a lot of extra work and are expensive. That, along with the taxes creates a huge price differential between legal and illegal weed. I thought it was all about taxes at first, but I've come to understand that illegal growers often use toxic pesticides that further increase yield-- and thus it is important to know where your weed comes from.
- jjulius 5y ago
  >I thought it was all about taxes at first, but I've come to understand that illegal growers often use toxic pesticides that further increase yield-- and thus it is important to know where your weed comes from. I've always preferred to pay the higher prices for this reason, and the fact that I know exactly how potent something is.
  - oceanghost 5y ago
    To say nothing of fentanyl. I'd like to remind you also that paying higher prices for something is a privilege of our class. So I'm going to work blue here for a bit... Regarding contamination and unsafe drugs-- my best friend and I had a tradition. Once a year around the end of the year, we'd get a couple grams of cocaine and go to someplace fantastic like the Queen Mary, or Disneyland, or the Long Beach Aquarium, The San Diego Zoo, etc. We called this tradition "Merry Cokemass". We had an agreement to never do any drugs outside of these appointed 24 hours. Anyways, we have both decided that this just isn't safe anymore.
- Thorrez 5y ago
  Will the action the article describes, removing the 1%-5% tax, help much? It sounds like the other price advantages of illegal businesses will remain. Maybe removing this tax will reduce some paperwork? The illegal businesses are probably still evading personal income tax, payroll tax, corporate income tax, sales tax. In addition to the pesticide stuff you mention.
lc3sim 5y ago
You, along with probably most of hacker news, probably just won't understand - unless you connect with the culture. To help explain it... I find what I need from friends and neighbors. I have built a system of trust that operates outside of the typical capitalistic reality that the rest of society runs on. Sometimes it means knowing where stuff was grown and who grew it. Sometimes the trust is more blind - it depends on the situation. Since cannabis is an organic compound (I only consume flower, not oil or edibles) I find it easy to "verify" that I am getting a legitimate product. I don't mean to brag, but I have a situation where I mostly get it for free. It is all love, and to have people share the love makes it all the more special. Another way to think of it like a CSA - would you want organic produce directly from the farm, or from Whole Foods? I hope this helps, at the very least, humanizes the other side a little bit.
- soared 5y ago
  This comment feels like art. Either it’s a troll that’s not that good, or it’s a genuine comment so far off in lala land that it’s a privilege to read.
  - Talanes 5y ago
    Nothing about that comment seems THAT unusual. Honestly, I'm spending more time sitting here trying to understand where you're coming from than I am with them. What elements of their comment struck you as trolling?
    - lc3sim 5y ago
      It is a very foreign concept to many people, I understand where they are coming from. For example, my mom loves Whole Foods and would not prefer a CSA. There is comfort in the standard quality that McDonalds has to offer. Marketing labels and branding have become commonplace and widely celebrated amongst consumers. To ask for these luxuries to be stripped away is preposterous to most people. “Your weed isn’t lab tested - but you could be killed!”
    - ahartmetz 5y ago

carabiner 5y ago

It's in the article.

kelnos 5y ago
Right, 1%-5%. But I don't think I'd care to deal with illegal product and any possible (even if unlikely) headaches around it just to save $1-$5 for every $100 spent. Seems kinda foolish. But yeah, I suppose if you're also picking up some illegal stuff, makes sense to make it a one-stop shopping trip.
- Talanes 5y ago
  People buying from dealers aren't considering the illegality in the choice at all, though. They're a choice between continuing to buy from someone they know vs entering a storefront that is going to make them provide a bunch of PII on the first visit, which also costs more.
  - kafkaIncarnate 5y ago
    For me the price was worth it to make "the person I know" become a "person I no longer knew".

pjbeam 5y ago

Dealers are more likely to make house calls?

colechristensen 5y ago
I don’t know, when I lived in Mountain View I could get (legal) cannabis delivered faster than pizza.
- adolph 5y ago
  In pizza's defense it isn't often delivered in a "bake at home" state.
- tschwimmer 5y ago
  This is not as big of an endorsement as you might think. I live in the Peninsula and I once ordered pizza from one of the big chains and it came at perfect room temperature after like an hour. I called the place to complain and they said they would refund me if I was willing to give the pizza back (!). Sure enough, about 45 minutes later a pizza guy came around and I tendered the pizza (minus a single bite) back to him. Not the most sterling benchmark.
Stratoscope 5y ago
Plenty of legitimate cannabis dispensaries have home delivery too.

dbavaria 5y ago

Perhaps it's more about supporting your local small business?

oceanghost 5y ago

I don't smoke weed, (not for moral reasons, I just hate it), but the incentive structures are really weird. My read on the situation is... Government wants to tax the weed and ensure its safe. So there are a ton of regulations which require you to do a lot of extra work and are expensive. That, along with the taxes creates a huge price differential between legal and illegal weed. I thought it was all about taxes at first, but I've come to understand that illegal growers often use toxic pesticides that further increase yield-- and thus it is important to know where your weed comes from.

jjulius 5y ago
>I thought it was all about taxes at first, but I've come to understand that illegal growers often use toxic pesticides that further increase yield-- and thus it is important to know where your weed comes from. I've always preferred to pay the higher prices for this reason, and the fact that I know exactly how potent something is.
- oceanghost 5y ago
  To say nothing of fentanyl. I'd like to remind you also that paying higher prices for something is a privilege of our class. So I'm going to work blue here for a bit... Regarding contamination and unsafe drugs-- my best friend and I had a tradition. Once a year around the end of the year, we'd get a couple grams of cocaine and go to someplace fantastic like the Queen Mary, or Disneyland, or the Long Beach Aquarium, The San Diego Zoo, etc. We called this tradition "Merry Cokemass". We had an agreement to never do any drugs outside of these appointed 24 hours. Anyways, we have both decided that this just isn't safe anymore.
Thorrez 5y ago
Will the action the article describes, removing the 1%-5% tax, help much? It sounds like the other price advantages of illegal businesses will remain. Maybe removing this tax will reduce some paperwork? The illegal businesses are probably still evading personal income tax, payroll tax, corporate income tax, sales tax. In addition to the pesticide stuff you mention.

lc3sim 5y ago

You, along with probably most of hacker news, probably just won't understand - unless you connect with the culture. To help explain it... I find what I need from friends and neighbors. I have built a system of trust that operates outside of the typical capitalistic reality that the rest of society runs on. Sometimes it means knowing where stuff was grown and who grew it. Sometimes the trust is more blind - it depends on the situation. Since cannabis is an organic compound (I only consume flower, not oil or edibles) I find it easy to "verify" that I am getting a legitimate product. I don't mean to brag, but I have a situation where I mostly get it for free. It is all love, and to have people share the love makes it all the more special. Another way to think of it like a CSA - would you want organic produce directly from the farm, or from Whole Foods? I hope this helps, at the very least, humanizes the other side a little bit.

soared 5y ago
This comment feels like art. Either it’s a troll that’s not that good, or it’s a genuine comment so far off in lala land that it’s a privilege to read.
- Talanes 5y ago
  Nothing about that comment seems THAT unusual. Honestly, I'm spending more time sitting here trying to understand where you're coming from than I am with them. What elements of their comment struck you as trolling?
  - lc3sim 5y ago
    It is a very foreign concept to many people, I understand where they are coming from. For example, my mom loves Whole Foods and would not prefer a CSA. There is comfort in the standard quality that McDonalds has to offer. Marketing labels and branding have become commonplace and widely celebrated amongst consumers. To ask for these luxuries to be stripped away is preposterous to most people. “Your weed isn’t lab tested - but you could be killed!”
  - ahartmetz 5y ago