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This is great and all - but what's the alternative? I've been using Firefox as my primary browser for about 2 years now - and the javascript engine on it has r

This is great and all - but what's the alternative? I've been using Firefox as my primary browser for about 2 years now - and the javascript engine on it has recently... sh*t the bed (I cannot paste links or images into facebook, I cannot paste text with line breaks into twitter, I cannot paste using reddit's "markdownmode"). I use google-chrome for netflix, recently chromium stopped working for netflix (apprently the browser is no longer supported) Edge isn't an option for me, brave isn't on my radar (WHY include cryptojunk with a BROWSER???, it's like the early 2000s where a major vendor was trying to claim that the browser is tied so closely to their kernel as to make it a part of an OS) Is Opera any good?

roca 5y ago
> (I cannot paste links or images into facebook, I cannot paste text with line breaks into twitter, I cannot paste using reddit's "markdownmode"). This is not normal, something's broken with Firefox in your setup. Probably worth filing a bug. (Also it's almost certainly nothing to do with the JS engine.)
ronnier 5y ago
I've started using brave. Feels just like chrome and I can use the Chrome extensions. There's settings for everything so you can disable the parts you don't like.
randoglando 5y ago
Curious, why isn't Edge an option? It's supposed to be the best alternative right now.
- userbinator 5y ago
  My guess is non-Windows user.
  - davemtl 5y ago
    Microsoft now provide binaries for Debian and RHEL based Distros. Used Edge on Ubuntu for more than 6+ months for work, probably one of the best experiences I had with a browser now that I think about it.
  - easton 5y ago
    Microsoft provides Linux and macOS builds (I use it on macOS whenever something doesn’t work right in Firefox, which is thankfully rare). If the reason you’re not using Windows is a Microsoft allergy though, that doesn’t help. Ungoogled Chromium works for that use case though.
- jack1243star 5y ago
  Their terrible advertisement [0] is a major turn-off. [0]: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/12/microsoft-edge-will-now-warn-users-about-the-dangers-of-downloading-google-chrome/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/12/microsoft-edge-will-...
davemtl 5y ago
Firefox recently started refusing to render pages for me on some sites, no amount of resetting the profile fixes it. I'm curious why Edge isn't an option for you? I've started using it recently and so far it's a fairly decent experience. Sure, it's Microsoft and run into the same trust and privacy issues you get with Google Chrome, but that being said, my browsing habits are pretty benign so I just accept it for what it is. Let's be honest, options are slim when choosing a web browser. Another browser on my radar is Valvadi [https://vivaldi.com/ https://vivaldi.com/], another Chromium based browser with a ton of bells and whistles, most of which can be turned off. It has very much an Opera vibe.
- throwawayboise 5y ago
  I use Firefox. Haven't noticed any recent issues such as not rendering certain sites, but if I did, I'd just move on from that site. Webdevs, if your product won't at least render something passable/readable on a browser other than Chrome, you're not trying hard enough.
  - davemtl 5y ago
    That's a tough thing to do when said sites are server IPMIs that never get up to date firmware.
    - throwawayboise 5y ago
      OK, fair enough, you may need to keep IE6 in a VM somwhere for that.
topspin 5y ago
> WHY include cryptojunk with a BROWSER??? The 'cryptojunk' facilitates funding content sans our traditional advertising dystopia. Whether that's you're cup or tea or not neither the rationale nor the mechanism is difficult to understand. The cryptojunk is also off by default[1]. Should you manage to overcome this hangup and give it a try you'll have a browser that is almost indistinguishable from Chrome except that the bulk of Google's abuse has been removed, among other benefits. [1] https://brave.com/rewards-update/ https://brave.com/rewards-update/
Semaphor 5y ago
Are you sure with FF that’s not an extension? No issues with FB or Twitter (just tested it), can’t talk about Reddit as I use the fast version.
bigchoke 5y ago
I personally like it for Windows, it even has an extension to allow the installation of google chrome extensions. In Linux it's a nightmare to use because of libffmpeg issues.
ossusermivami 5y ago
I am not sure what is the issue with your system but I am using Chromium with Netflix on Linux (arch so I guess pretty much latest versions of everything) just fine

roca 5y ago

> (I cannot paste links or images into facebook, I cannot paste text with line breaks into twitter, I cannot paste using reddit's "markdownmode"). This is not normal, something's broken with Firefox in your setup. Probably worth filing a bug. (Also it's almost certainly nothing to do with the JS engine.)

ronnier 5y ago

I've started using brave. Feels just like chrome and I can use the Chrome extensions. There's settings for everything so you can disable the parts you don't like.

randoglando 5y ago

Curious, why isn't Edge an option? It's supposed to be the best alternative right now.

userbinator 5y ago
My guess is non-Windows user.
- davemtl 5y ago
  Microsoft now provide binaries for Debian and RHEL based Distros. Used Edge on Ubuntu for more than 6+ months for work, probably one of the best experiences I had with a browser now that I think about it.
- easton 5y ago
  Microsoft provides Linux and macOS builds (I use it on macOS whenever something doesn’t work right in Firefox, which is thankfully rare). If the reason you’re not using Windows is a Microsoft allergy though, that doesn’t help. Ungoogled Chromium works for that use case though.
jack1243star 5y ago
Their terrible advertisement [0] is a major turn-off. [0]: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/12/microsoft-edge-will-now-warn-users-about-the-dangers-of-downloading-google-chrome/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/12/microsoft-edge-will-...

davemtl 5y ago

Firefox recently started refusing to render pages for me on some sites, no amount of resetting the profile fixes it. I'm curious why Edge isn't an option for you? I've started using it recently and so far it's a fairly decent experience. Sure, it's Microsoft and run into the same trust and privacy issues you get with Google Chrome, but that being said, my browsing habits are pretty benign so I just accept it for what it is. Let's be honest, options are slim when choosing a web browser. Another browser on my radar is Valvadi [https://vivaldi.com/ https://vivaldi.com/], another Chromium based browser with a ton of bells and whistles, most of which can be turned off. It has very much an Opera vibe.

throwawayboise 5y ago
I use Firefox. Haven't noticed any recent issues such as not rendering certain sites, but if I did, I'd just move on from that site. Webdevs, if your product won't at least render something passable/readable on a browser other than Chrome, you're not trying hard enough.
- davemtl 5y ago
  That's a tough thing to do when said sites are server IPMIs that never get up to date firmware.
  - throwawayboise 5y ago
    OK, fair enough, you may need to keep IE6 in a VM somwhere for that.

topspin 5y ago

> WHY include cryptojunk with a BROWSER??? The 'cryptojunk' facilitates funding content sans our traditional advertising dystopia. Whether that's you're cup or tea or not neither the rationale nor the mechanism is difficult to understand. The cryptojunk is also off by default[1]. Should you manage to overcome this hangup and give it a try you'll have a browser that is almost indistinguishable from Chrome except that the bulk of Google's abuse has been removed, among other benefits. [1] https://brave.com/rewards-update/ https://brave.com/rewards-update/

Semaphor 5y ago

Are you sure with FF that’s not an extension? No issues with FB or Twitter (just tested it), can’t talk about Reddit as I use the fast version.

bigchoke 5y ago

I personally like it for Windows, it even has an extension to allow the installation of google chrome extensions. In Linux it's a nightmare to use because of libffmpeg issues.

ossusermivami 5y ago

I am not sure what is the issue with your system but I am using Chromium with Netflix on Linux (arch so I guess pretty much latest versions of everything) just fine