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But at least we're not under a Republican mayor and all those racist policing policies that... completely cleaned up the city.

by Grakel 5y ago

footlose_3815 5y ago
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- dang 5y ago
  Please do not take HN threads further into political flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for, so we ban accounts that make a habit of it (regardless of what they're flaming for or against). https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: glancing at your recent posts (yikes!) it's clear that you've been making a habit of it, so I've banned this account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future.
cyanydeez 5y ago
you never scrutinized what they "cleaned up" did you? https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/policing/spotlight/2017/02/09/compstat-computer-police-policing-the-usa-community/97568874/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/policing/spotlight/20... mostly they cleaned up the statistics.
- NullPrefix 5y ago
  #WONTFIX
toss1 5y ago
Or, instead of completely cleaning up the city, merely claimed credit for nationwide demographic trends that started 3-4 years before said mayor ever ran for office and continued since. Plenty of references, e.g., [1], from many years before said former mayor has come under multiple criminal investigations. [1] https://www.politifact.com/article/2007/sep/01/how-much-credit-giuliani-due-fighting-crime/ https://www.politifact.com/article/2007/sep/01/how-much-cred...
skinnymuch 5y ago
Look up who started Compstat and what their vision and their actions were like. Starting with Giuliani, the mayors didn’t help at all. They made things worse. Jack Maple is a flawed but awesome person. It’s unfortunate others like the mayors get so much credit.
- skinnymuch 5y ago
  I would love to get a response to why I was downvoted. Jack Maple is a hero. The leaders of NYC who made things worse and got all the credit are the opposite. Downvoted because of political in-group reasons?
dang 5y ago
Please do not take HN threads into political flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for, so ban accounts that make a habit of it (regardless of what they're flaming for or against). https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

But at least we're not under a Republican mayor and all those racist policing policies that... completely cleaned up the city.

by Grakel 5y ago

But at least we're not under a Republican mayor and all those racist policing policies that... completely cleaned up the city.

footlose_3815 5y ago

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dang 5y ago
Please do not take HN threads further into political flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for, so we ban accounts that make a habit of it (regardless of what they're flaming for or against). https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: glancing at your recent posts (yikes!) it's clear that you've been making a habit of it, so I've banned this account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future.

cyanydeez 5y ago

you never scrutinized what they "cleaned up" did you? https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/policing/spotlight/2017/02/09/compstat-computer-police-policing-the-usa-community/97568874/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/policing/spotlight/20... mostly they cleaned up the statistics.

NullPrefix 5y ago
#WONTFIX

toss1 5y ago

Or, instead of completely cleaning up the city, merely claimed credit for nationwide demographic trends that started 3-4 years before said mayor ever ran for office and continued since. Plenty of references, e.g., [1], from many years before said former mayor has come under multiple criminal investigations. [1] https://www.politifact.com/article/2007/sep/01/how-much-credit-giuliani-due-fighting-crime/ https://www.politifact.com/article/2007/sep/01/how-much-cred...

skinnymuch 5y ago

Look up who started Compstat and what their vision and their actions were like. Starting with Giuliani, the mayors didn’t help at all. They made things worse. Jack Maple is a flawed but awesome person. It’s unfortunate others like the mayors get so much credit.

skinnymuch 5y ago
I would love to get a response to why I was downvoted. Jack Maple is a hero. The leaders of NYC who made things worse and got all the credit are the opposite. Downvoted because of political in-group reasons?

dang 5y ago

Please do not take HN threads into political flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for, so ban accounts that make a habit of it (regardless of what they're flaming for or against). https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html