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Avoid sugar free drinks? > Use spices sparingly. > Add garlic to home cooked meals. Those two things aren’t compatible. Is there any science behind these de

Avoid sugar free drinks? > Use spices sparingly. > Add garlic to home cooked meals. Those two things aren’t compatible. Is there any science behind these declarations or is it mainly a rehash of what you happened to do when your issues went away?

buildsjets 5y ago
Garlic is not a spice. It is an allium, in the same family as onions and leeks.
- margalabargala 5y ago
  Not sure what definition of spice you're using, but Wikipedia calls it "a plant substance primarily used for flavoring food", which garlic definitely is.
  - buildsjets 5y ago
    I would define a spice as a non-nutritive plant substance used for flavoring and not consumed as an independent entity. Garlic is not non-nutritive, and it is consumed by many people as a whole food. Whole roasted heads of garlic are awesome.
    - zajio1am 5y ago
      Chilli peppers are also consumed as independent entities, but chilli powder is definitely a spice. Similarly ginger.
    - margalabargala 5y ago
      Why does it need to be non-nutritive? That would rule out things like ginger, many chili peppers, some plant greens like basil, even sesame seeds. I would consider all of the above spices, as well as garlic.
      - buildsjets 5y ago
        I would consider all of those to be vegetables, herbs, or other types of consumables, not spices. I would consider dried and ground chili peppers a spice, and fresh whole ones to be a vegetable.
        margalabargala 5y ago
        That seems reasonable. But then to bring it back around full circle- would garlic then indeed be a spice, when used as an individual clove finely chopped in a larger dish for flavoring purposes (or garlic powder), by the same logic you're applying to peppers? Not a big deal though. It sounds like you apply stricter categorical food definitions than I do, and that's fine. It's hard to draw exact lines.
      - thevagrant 5y ago
        My apologies - fresh ingredients like those would be fine in my case. I was unclear and meant processed spices in powdered form which seem to act as some kind of gut irritant (for me)
    - malwarebytess 5y ago
      I guarantee you just about every spice eaten at the same bulk as a head of garlic would be 'nutritive.' Especially fresh.
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thevagrant 5y ago
Drinks sweetened with Stevia may be ok. I guess each person has to experiment. I've read that artificial sweeteners alter the gut flora in a bad way. Spices - I meant dried form powdered spices. Yes n=1. I found this out when I read of cinnamon benzoate free diet used to treat other conditions. I went from drinking a lot of coke / soda / fruit juice drinks to the natural progression of cutting back on sugar. I kept drinking sugar free versions of various drinks for a long time. I then cut them completely as they had a negative effect for me. If you drink one, it's not obvious and may not be an issue. Drinking those things every day... maybe some people are ok but eventually my body rejected that. Water, tea, coffee are ok in my experience.. I am not claiming a cure, I added suggestions to include with the parent posters advice that I found helpful. As always work with your doctor and follow their advice.
- nicoburns 5y ago
  > Drinks sweetened with Stevia may be ok. I guess each person has to experiment. I've read that artificial sweeteners alter the gut flora in a bad way. I think the query around "sugar-free drinks" was that this phrase would normally include drinks like water that have no sugar or artificial sweeteners rather than just artificially sweetened drinks.

buildsjets 5y ago

Garlic is not a spice. It is an allium, in the same family as onions and leeks.

margalabargala 5y ago
Not sure what definition of spice you're using, but Wikipedia calls it "a plant substance primarily used for flavoring food", which garlic definitely is.
- buildsjets 5y ago
  I would define a spice as a non-nutritive plant substance used for flavoring and not consumed as an independent entity. Garlic is not non-nutritive, and it is consumed by many people as a whole food. Whole roasted heads of garlic are awesome.
  - zajio1am 5y ago
    Chilli peppers are also consumed as independent entities, but chilli powder is definitely a spice. Similarly ginger.
  - margalabargala 5y ago
    Why does it need to be non-nutritive? That would rule out things like ginger, many chili peppers, some plant greens like basil, even sesame seeds. I would consider all of the above spices, as well as garlic.
    - buildsjets 5y ago
      I would consider all of those to be vegetables, herbs, or other types of consumables, not spices. I would consider dried and ground chili peppers a spice, and fresh whole ones to be a vegetable.
      - margalabargala 5y ago
        That seems reasonable. But then to bring it back around full circle- would garlic then indeed be a spice, when used as an individual clove finely chopped in a larger dish for flavoring purposes (or garlic powder), by the same logic you're applying to peppers? Not a big deal though. It sounds like you apply stricter categorical food definitions than I do, and that's fine. It's hard to draw exact lines.
    - thevagrant 5y ago
      My apologies - fresh ingredients like those would be fine in my case. I was unclear and meant processed spices in powdered form which seem to act as some kind of gut irritant (for me)
  - malwarebytess 5y ago
    I guarantee you just about every spice eaten at the same bulk as a head of garlic would be 'nutritive.' Especially fresh.

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thevagrant 5y ago

Drinks sweetened with Stevia may be ok. I guess each person has to experiment. I've read that artificial sweeteners alter the gut flora in a bad way. Spices - I meant dried form powdered spices. Yes n=1. I found this out when I read of cinnamon benzoate free diet used to treat other conditions. I went from drinking a lot of coke / soda / fruit juice drinks to the natural progression of cutting back on sugar. I kept drinking sugar free versions of various drinks for a long time. I then cut them completely as they had a negative effect for me. If you drink one, it's not obvious and may not be an issue. Drinking those things every day... maybe some people are ok but eventually my body rejected that. Water, tea, coffee are ok in my experience.. I am not claiming a cure, I added suggestions to include with the parent posters advice that I found helpful. As always work with your doctor and follow their advice.

nicoburns 5y ago
> Drinks sweetened with Stevia may be ok. I guess each person has to experiment. I've read that artificial sweeteners alter the gut flora in a bad way. I think the query around "sugar-free drinks" was that this phrase would normally include drinks like water that have no sugar or artificial sweeteners rather than just artificially sweetened drinks.