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On alternative therapy: is the magnitude and actual relief from the placebo effect (e.g. how much pain relief are we really talking here) more important than th
by seanwilson 5y ago
On alternative therapy: is the magnitude and actual relief from the placebo effect (e.g. how much pain relief are we really talking here) more important than the damage it causes by promoting unscientific thinking (e.g. which gives rise to avoiding vaccinations or avoiding chemotherapy that directly leads to deaths)?
What's the most impressive placebo effect and its limits? Can it cure cancer? Fix broken bones? Give you virus immunity? Is it mostly a bit of pain relief we're talking about?
Can we take advantage of this effect without having to wrap it with all the unscientific thinking and pseudoscience that comes with alternative therapy?
Whenever I read people defending alternative medicine and how powerful the placebo effect is, I don't think e.g. a little bit of pain relief is good enough to justify billion dollar industries that are allowed to sell products where they can't prove they work more than a placebo. This is as close as you can get to saying it's been proven these medicines do not work and yet they're still allowed to sell them.
You can't confuse the public like this and be surprised when they won't listen to the science behind masks and vaccines.
- aradox66 5y agoThat kind of consideration should not influence medical empirics or practice. If placebo is a real phenomenon, it needs to be understood.
- idontwantthis 5y agoIf we understood it, could we create a Placebo Effect Inducing pill that is stronger than an actual Placebo?
- aradox66 5y agoIf we understood why some placebo effects are stronger than others, than yeah it stands to reason that we could utilize that knowledge to make stronger placebos.
- SuoDuanDao 5y ago>Can we take advantage of this effect without having to wrap it with all the unscientific thinking and pseudoscience that comes with alternative therapy? New thought is probably an attempt to do that, one could say it seeks to isolate pure belief and apply it to problems directly. Not sure if you'd call it unscientific or very scientific.
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