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So much wrong despite so much right. Making the sea peoples all Greek totally flies in the face of the written records at the time, for example where Ugaritic
by kromem 5y ago
So much wrong despite so much right.
Making the sea peoples all Greek totally flies in the face of the written records at the time, for example where Ugaritic leaders wrote to Cypress for help given the ships attacking them and got the response "it's your own ships."
SOME of the sea peoples were Greek. But a single genetic result most closely matching Crete (which was only 40% not "almost completely") shouldn't be extrapolated to be all the sea peoples. And it ignores the research that the Minoan ancestry was in line with the Anatolian farmers of the Neolithic period.
It also ignores the role of Lybia in the early Egyptian records of sea peoples battles, as well as Ramses II's capture of many peoples following Sherden/Lybian battles and then Hittite battle of Kadesh (where he captured 12 groups of tribes).
And arguably the biggest oversight (not just by OP but by many looking at this period) is failing to put aside the myth of ethnocentrism and monotheism from the Israelite story of 12 tribes fleeing Egypt under Moses with oldest part of that story referring to Dan "staying on their ships."
The Greek story of the Exodus claimed many different people left, and placed the fleeing of Danaus alongside them. Danaus, the likely eponymous leader claimed to be a brother of the Pharoh with 50 sons and connected with Lybia. Sounds kind of like Ramses II, who had 50 sons and whose forensic report identified him as appearing to have been a Lybian Berber.
Sure weird that a lot of the sea peoples conquered territories were then named for Mopsus/Muksus, including the Denyen of Adana who centuries later still had a ruling "House of Mopsus."
I wonder if that has anything to do with Dan, who "stayed on their ships" in the Song of Deborah - the earliest part of the Bible, in Judges 18 ending up with a grandson of Moses as chief priest.
There's a lot more, especially in the Cretan/Lybian genetic overlap with the Ashkenazi, particularly given the 80% pre-history European mtDNA lineages. Or in Aegean archeology for details in claimed Biblical history. But suffice to say the sea peoples shouldn't be as much a mystery as it remains if only people would do a better job looking at what's clearly myth (Abrahamic lineages given Y-haplogroups and early Israelite monotheism) and who was writing the story (Judah, who wasn't a group present earlier on).
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