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Dude the post office would squander that money. I have no idea why people think these public entities can execute like Amazon does. Its the same with SpaceX and

Dude the post office would squander that money. I have no idea why people think these public entities can execute like Amazon does. Its the same with SpaceX and NASA, very clear at this point that NASA was a huge waste of money and completely incompetent.

ceejayoz 5y ago
Why doesn’t NASA get any credit for creating and funding the Commercial Cargo and Commercial Crew programs? SpaceX looks like a very savvy, competent investment made by NASA to me.
- ldjkfkdsjnv 5y ago
  Because if a private company had worked on that same thing, the results would have been 10x.
  - ceejayoz 5y ago
    Yeah, sure. Go look up what those programs involve. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX#2005%E2%80%932009:_Falcon_1_and_first_orbital_launches https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX#2005%E2%80%932009:_Falc... > The first two Falcon 1 launches were purchased by the United States Department of Defense under a program that evaluates new US launch vehicles suitable for use by DARPA. The first three launches of the rocket, between 2006 and 2008, all resulted in failures. These failures almost ended the company as Musk had planned and financing to cover the costs of three launches; Tesla, SolarCity, and Musk personally were all nearly bankrupt at the same time as well; Musk was reportedly "waking from nightmares, screaming and in physical pain" because of the stress. > However, things started to turn around when the first successful launch was achieved shortly after with the fourth attempt on 28 September 2008. Musk split his remaining $30 million between SpaceX and Tesla, and NASA awarded the first Commercial Resupply Services (CRS) contract to SpaceX in December, thus financially saving the company. Based on these factors and the further business operations they enabled, the Falcon 1 was soon after retired following its second successful, and fifth total, launch in July 2009; this allowed SpaceX to focus company resources on the development of a larger orbital rocket, the Falcon 9. Gwynne Shotwell was also promoted to company president at this time, for her role in successfully negotiating the CRS contract with NASA.
jimjimjim 5y ago
spacex stands on the shoulders of giants. don't forget that!
rootusrootus 5y ago
> can execute like Amazon does We'd have to be willing to let the USPS operate at a significant loss for a decade, kinda like Amazon.
- ldjkfkdsjnv 5y ago
  Or differently stated, reinvest all profits back into the business, report a loss. Amazon is brutal to its employees, a government run entity will never match the level of execution. Its really a fantasy to think otherwise, and has never been shown to be true

ceejayoz 5y ago

Why doesn’t NASA get any credit for creating and funding the Commercial Cargo and Commercial Crew programs? SpaceX looks like a very savvy, competent investment made by NASA to me.

ldjkfkdsjnv 5y ago
Because if a private company had worked on that same thing, the results would have been 10x.
- ceejayoz 5y ago
  Yeah, sure. Go look up what those programs involve. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX#2005%E2%80%932009:_Falcon_1_and_first_orbital_launches https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX#2005%E2%80%932009:_Falc... > The first two Falcon 1 launches were purchased by the United States Department of Defense under a program that evaluates new US launch vehicles suitable for use by DARPA. The first three launches of the rocket, between 2006 and 2008, all resulted in failures. These failures almost ended the company as Musk had planned and financing to cover the costs of three launches; Tesla, SolarCity, and Musk personally were all nearly bankrupt at the same time as well; Musk was reportedly "waking from nightmares, screaming and in physical pain" because of the stress. > However, things started to turn around when the first successful launch was achieved shortly after with the fourth attempt on 28 September 2008. Musk split his remaining $30 million between SpaceX and Tesla, and NASA awarded the first Commercial Resupply Services (CRS) contract to SpaceX in December, thus financially saving the company. Based on these factors and the further business operations they enabled, the Falcon 1 was soon after retired following its second successful, and fifth total, launch in July 2009; this allowed SpaceX to focus company resources on the development of a larger orbital rocket, the Falcon 9. Gwynne Shotwell was also promoted to company president at this time, for her role in successfully negotiating the CRS contract with NASA.

jimjimjim 5y ago

spacex stands on the shoulders of giants. don't forget that!

rootusrootus 5y ago

> can execute like Amazon does We'd have to be willing to let the USPS operate at a significant loss for a decade, kinda like Amazon.

ldjkfkdsjnv 5y ago
Or differently stated, reinvest all profits back into the business, report a loss. Amazon is brutal to its employees, a government run entity will never match the level of execution. Its really a fantasy to think otherwise, and has never been shown to be true