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Especially the Air Force should know better since the people doing the work for flying things are officers...

manquer 5y ago
Flying is at pinnancle of jobs at an airforce. There are thousands of roles that is needed for a one plane to be ready to fly by a pilot. Perhaps the more accurate statement officers do the what they see as cool jobs all boring ones are delegated.
- QuarterReptile 5y ago
  Although the polar opposite can very often be true. The enlisted guy troubleshoots the obscure fault in the oxygen generator while his officer drafts messages detailing the problem, works to get parts ordered, and attends meetings about the whole fiasco.
throwawayboise 5y ago
Aren't the people doing the flying mostly low level officers such as lieutenants and maybe captains?
- yutyut 5y ago
  No, tactical flying is highly technical and requires years to master. Most lieutenants and junior captains (winged aviators, mind you) that check into a squadron are tactically useless for the first 12-18 months as we train them up and they aeronautically adapt. Your three-to-four year Captains will do most of the flying but even the CO generally flies 1-2 times a week (Marine aviation).
  - hef19898 5y ago
    The only employer I had in my life, among quite a few, where leadership had that devotion t the operational aspects of their jobs was Amazon. I like to work with those people. I guess that culture is what gives Amazon its continuous edge over the competition.
    - yutyut 5y ago
      > I like the work with those people I agree. Developing my own technical proficiency and teaching the next generations has been the only thing keeping me going in an organization otherwise wrought with inefficiency and stupidity. In my experience aviation is fairly unique in this aspect (in the context of the military writ large).
      - hef19898 5y ago
        Having returned to aerospace since then, I can agree. Also with military written large!

Flying is at pinnancle of jobs at an airforce. There are thousands of roles that is needed for a one plane to be ready to fly by a pilot. Perhaps the more accurate statement officers do the what they see as cool jobs all boring ones are delegated.

QuarterReptile 5y ago
Although the polar opposite can very often be true. The enlisted guy troubleshoots the obscure fault in the oxygen generator while his officer drafts messages detailing the problem, works to get parts ordered, and attends meetings about the whole fiasco.

throwawayboise 5y ago

Aren't the people doing the flying mostly low level officers such as lieutenants and maybe captains?

yutyut 5y ago
No, tactical flying is highly technical and requires years to master. Most lieutenants and junior captains (winged aviators, mind you) that check into a squadron are tactically useless for the first 12-18 months as we train them up and they aeronautically adapt. Your three-to-four year Captains will do most of the flying but even the CO generally flies 1-2 times a week (Marine aviation).
- hef19898 5y ago
  The only employer I had in my life, among quite a few, where leadership had that devotion t the operational aspects of their jobs was Amazon. I like to work with those people. I guess that culture is what gives Amazon its continuous edge over the competition.
  - yutyut 5y ago
    > I like the work with those people I agree. Developing my own technical proficiency and teaching the next generations has been the only thing keeping me going in an organization otherwise wrought with inefficiency and stupidity. In my experience aviation is fairly unique in this aspect (in the context of the military writ large).
    - hef19898 5y ago
      Having returned to aerospace since then, I can agree. Also with military written large!