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Bob Dole has died

78 points by stopagephobia 5y ago

sharmin123 5y ago
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dhosek 5y ago
This has been a week of discovering people I'd assumed were dead were still alive (although in this case, not so much anymore). The other one is Henry Kissinger whom I'd assumed had died decades ago but it turns out is still alive and putting his name on books.
- seiferteric 5y ago
  he was involved with theranos
  - toss1 5y ago
    Probably more accurate to say 'fooled by Theranos'. I don't recall reading a single jot about his being part of the founding.
    - seiferteric 5y ago
      He was on the board. It's their job to know what's going on, but they just didn't care to look or maybe know how. The people on the board were there for prestige rather than serving any real function unfortunately.
      - toss1 5y ago
        Yup, sadly read of testimony of one of them that they weren't really sure why they were there (on the board). Of course, not all, indeed maybe most, board members are not technical experts. The board is there to set general corp strategy, not to do code review, and are generally working under the assumption that the executives are not lying to them; executives who are found to be lying to the board are generally rapidly dismissed. So, yes, I have a hard time blaming the board members who were used as much as the investors. I'm not sure there were ever any technically proficient board members, which also leads me to the conclusion that this was a planned fraud by Holmes, Balwani, etc.
hirundo 5y ago
"As a 21-year-old platoon leader, Dole was trying to pull a radioman from the line of fire when he was struck in the upper back and right arm...It took three years of treatment and countless setbacks before he was able to recover from the wounds, although he lost the use of his right arm and most of the feeling in his left." Thank you for your military service Senator. Rest in peace.
- GoodJokes 5y ago
  Simping the military is one of silicon valley’s longest traditions!
kwertyoowiyop 5y ago
Like John McCain, Dole’s politics did not agree with mine but he went through some serious sh*t serving our country, so a heartfelt “thank you.”
- hereforphone 5y ago
  So much better and mature than the typical Reddit comment when a conservative dies. Hopefully HN doesn't degenerate too fast, the maturity level is what keeps me here.
  - shmoe 5y ago
    Depends on the conservative, but McCain, Dole -- those guys are American legends and deserve respect regardless of their politics.
    - Teever 5y ago
      how do you think Vietnamese people should feel about McCain and Dole?
      - jannie123 5y ago
        For McCain they view him fairly well (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/08/27/how-vietnam-has-reacted-death-john-mccain/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/08/27/how-vietnam-...) and idk for Dole but I'd be surprised if they knew him (he didn't fight in vietnam btw if that's what your implying)
      - hereforphone 5y ago
        See what I mean about Reddit-like?
      - _moof 5y ago
        Dole fought in World War II.
        5y ago
bradleyjg 5y ago
I always wonder if the Republicans nominated him in 1996 because they thought he could win or just as honorary thing given they probably couldn’t win with anyone. It felt like one of the most lopsided elections of my lifetime (I was too young to pay attention to politics when Dukakis ran.)
- runevault 5y ago
  I wouldn't be surprised if the latter. I don't know that the Rs had anyone who could compete with Clinton on charisma which is always dangerous. Hell when Bush Sr ran he didn't realize what he was going up against until it was too late.
  - rootusrootus 5y ago
    > when Bush Sr ran he didn't realize what he was going up against until it was too late I still remember watching that moment in the town hall when it hit me that he was going to win, and probably by a good margin. He was smooooth. Coincidentally, I also remember watching Hillary Clinton do the dance thing during a debate with Trump and that's the moment I decided she might actually lose despite everyone suggesting it was going to be a blowout. Told my wife "If she loses, it will be because of that attitude." She definitely does not have Bill's charisma.
    - deleted 5y ago
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    - runevault 5y ago
      As someone who grew up in Arkansas, even as a kid we all knew the rest of the country had no idea what was coming. A Democrat who managed to win the governorship in Arkansas is, uh, impressive.
- CommieBobDole 5y ago
  I don't think it was as lopsided as you think - Dole got 40.7% of the popular vote compared to Clinton's 49.7%, and he flipped five states in the electoral college. Even though the results were never really in doubt, that's not too bad of a showing against an incumbent president.
AlbertCory 5y ago
A great, great man. And one of the few Presidential candidates with a sense of humor [1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBklPt7oUOc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBklPt7oUOc starting at 11:00
- queuebert 5y ago
  Back when there were moderates who got along with each other and had a sense of humor. Glad we have a record of that.
  - alphabettsy 5y ago
    They still exist.
    - deleted 5y ago
      [deleted]
beardedwizard 5y ago
Bob Dole doesn't need this :(
- mrfox321 5y ago
  Ladies and gentlemen, 73 year old candidate, Bob Dole!
goldcd 5y ago
“I do not need the presidency to make or refresh my soul. For greatness lies not in what office you hold, but on how honest you are in how you face adversity and in your willingness to stand fast in hard places.” That's not a bad quote Actually, whole obituary is worth a read - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/05/bob-dole-soldier-politician-republican-old-school https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/05/bob-dole-sol... This is a left wing British paper.
skj 5y ago
Little known fact: "Bob Dole has died" were his last words.
- mbg721 5y ago
  For better or worse, the reputation for referring to himself in the third person is one he shares with Julius Caesar.
MarkMc 5y ago
Bob Dole's passing has reminded me that one of the answers in the greatest crossword puzzle of all time was, "Bob Dole Elected". Worth a read: https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/clinton-1996-election-nyt-crossword-gif/ https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/clinton-1996-election-nyt-c...
sjellen 5y ago
Read the first couple of chapters of “What it Takes” specifically the ones on Dole and then look at the current pool of politicians. You needn’t wonder why things are in a state of decline. The greatest hardship a modern politician has been through is losing a Twitter battle.

78 points by stopagephobia 5y ago

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dhosek 5y ago

This has been a week of discovering people I'd assumed were dead were still alive (although in this case, not so much anymore). The other one is Henry Kissinger whom I'd assumed had died decades ago but it turns out is still alive and putting his name on books.

seiferteric 5y ago
he was involved with theranos
- toss1 5y ago
  Probably more accurate to say 'fooled by Theranos'. I don't recall reading a single jot about his being part of the founding.
  - seiferteric 5y ago
    He was on the board. It's their job to know what's going on, but they just didn't care to look or maybe know how. The people on the board were there for prestige rather than serving any real function unfortunately.
    - toss1 5y ago
      Yup, sadly read of testimony of one of them that they weren't really sure why they were there (on the board). Of course, not all, indeed maybe most, board members are not technical experts. The board is there to set general corp strategy, not to do code review, and are generally working under the assumption that the executives are not lying to them; executives who are found to be lying to the board are generally rapidly dismissed. So, yes, I have a hard time blaming the board members who were used as much as the investors. I'm not sure there were ever any technically proficient board members, which also leads me to the conclusion that this was a planned fraud by Holmes, Balwani, etc.

hirundo 5y ago

"As a 21-year-old platoon leader, Dole was trying to pull a radioman from the line of fire when he was struck in the upper back and right arm...It took three years of treatment and countless setbacks before he was able to recover from the wounds, although he lost the use of his right arm and most of the feeling in his left." Thank you for your military service Senator. Rest in peace.

GoodJokes 5y ago
Simping the military is one of silicon valley’s longest traditions!

kwertyoowiyop 5y ago

Like John McCain, Dole’s politics did not agree with mine but he went through some serious sh*t serving our country, so a heartfelt “thank you.”

hereforphone 5y ago
So much better and mature than the typical Reddit comment when a conservative dies. Hopefully HN doesn't degenerate too fast, the maturity level is what keeps me here.
- shmoe 5y ago
  Depends on the conservative, but McCain, Dole -- those guys are American legends and deserve respect regardless of their politics.
  - Teever 5y ago
    how do you think Vietnamese people should feel about McCain and Dole?
    - jannie123 5y ago
      For McCain they view him fairly well (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/08/27/how-vietnam-has-reacted-death-john-mccain/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2018/08/27/how-vietnam-...) and idk for Dole but I'd be surprised if they knew him (he didn't fight in vietnam btw if that's what your implying)
    - hereforphone 5y ago
      See what I mean about Reddit-like?
    - _moof 5y ago
      Dole fought in World War II.
      - 5y ago

bradleyjg 5y ago

I always wonder if the Republicans nominated him in 1996 because they thought he could win or just as honorary thing given they probably couldn’t win with anyone. It felt like one of the most lopsided elections of my lifetime (I was too young to pay attention to politics when Dukakis ran.)

runevault 5y ago
I wouldn't be surprised if the latter. I don't know that the Rs had anyone who could compete with Clinton on charisma which is always dangerous. Hell when Bush Sr ran he didn't realize what he was going up against until it was too late.
- rootusrootus 5y ago
  > when Bush Sr ran he didn't realize what he was going up against until it was too late I still remember watching that moment in the town hall when it hit me that he was going to win, and probably by a good margin. He was smooooth. Coincidentally, I also remember watching Hillary Clinton do the dance thing during a debate with Trump and that's the moment I decided she might actually lose despite everyone suggesting it was going to be a blowout. Told my wife "If she loses, it will be because of that attitude." She definitely does not have Bill's charisma.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
  - runevault 5y ago
    As someone who grew up in Arkansas, even as a kid we all knew the rest of the country had no idea what was coming. A Democrat who managed to win the governorship in Arkansas is, uh, impressive.
CommieBobDole 5y ago
I don't think it was as lopsided as you think - Dole got 40.7% of the popular vote compared to Clinton's 49.7%, and he flipped five states in the electoral college. Even though the results were never really in doubt, that's not too bad of a showing against an incumbent president.

AlbertCory 5y ago

A great, great man. And one of the few Presidential candidates with a sense of humor [1] [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBklPt7oUOc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBklPt7oUOc starting at 11:00

queuebert 5y ago
Back when there were moderates who got along with each other and had a sense of humor. Glad we have a record of that.
- alphabettsy 5y ago
  They still exist.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]

beardedwizard 5y ago

Bob Dole doesn't need this :(

mrfox321 5y ago
Ladies and gentlemen, 73 year old candidate, Bob Dole!

goldcd 5y ago

“I do not need the presidency to make or refresh my soul. For greatness lies not in what office you hold, but on how honest you are in how you face adversity and in your willingness to stand fast in hard places.” That's not a bad quote Actually, whole obituary is worth a read - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/05/bob-dole-soldier-politician-republican-old-school https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/05/bob-dole-sol... This is a left wing British paper.

skj 5y ago

Little known fact: "Bob Dole has died" were his last words.

mbg721 5y ago
For better or worse, the reputation for referring to himself in the third person is one he shares with Julius Caesar.

MarkMc 5y ago

Bob Dole's passing has reminded me that one of the answers in the greatest crossword puzzle of all time was, "Bob Dole Elected". Worth a read: https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/clinton-1996-election-nyt-crossword-gif/ https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/clinton-1996-election-nyt-c...

sjellen 5y ago

Read the first couple of chapters of “What it Takes” specifically the ones on Dole and then look at the current pool of politicians. You needn’t wonder why things are in a state of decline. The greatest hardship a modern politician has been through is losing a Twitter battle.