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Why? There is no more personal thing than your own life. Why should not we be able to choose when to end it? People will be doing it anyways, just in all the gr

Why? There is no more personal thing than your own life. Why should not we be able to choose when to end it? People will be doing it anyways, just in all the gruesome ways it is usually done. Hopefully this container doubles as a coffin that can be either buried or burnt.

otabdeveloper4 5y ago
You can already kill yourself if you really want to. Nobody can stop you. The whole idea of "assisted suicide" is like Bitcoin - invented for the express purpose of finding and abusing loopholes in the current legal frameworks.
- kergonath 5y ago
  Sometimes legal frameworks are inhumane, immoral, cruel, and ought to be loopholed. I can think of at least 5 examples right now.
- gambiting 5y ago
  Yes, someone who is paralyzed from their neck down can easily take their own life, of course. Don't see any issue here. You have to excuse the sarcasm, but if you really can't think of any cases where taking your own life in a dignified manner is not actually possible, then I'm not sure there's any discussion to be had here
- tasty_freeze 5y ago
  There are multiple ways one might commit suicide, it is true. But some are more reliable than others; some leave a terrible mess for someone (perhaps a family member) to clean up; some are more painful than others; some may put other people at risk. The worst outcome is when a person tries to kill themselves and ends up alive but in an even worse condition. For people who don't have religious prohibitions on suicide, having a reliable, simple, low cost, low-pain, low-mess option sounds great to me.
ajsnigrutin 5y ago
Sucide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Usually, atleast a few other methods should be used to help, before deciding on suicide (with a notable exception of being close to a very painful, inevitable death, and just wanting to shorten the suffering).
- sokoloff 5y ago
  Suicide is a permanent solution. Sometimes it’s a solution to a temporary problem; other times to a permanent problem.
  - pbsull 5y ago
    Suicide causes permanent state change. Life and all of life’s problems are temporary state.
    - PUSH_AX 5y ago
      > all of life’s problems are temporary state. Not all. Incurable disease is just one example.
    - kergonath 5y ago
      That’s such an absurd point of view. When the duration of the problems is comparable to your expected lifespan, it is permanent for all intent and purposes. Sure, an incurable illness is not permanent in that it has to end when the person die. That’s not a useful point to make.
    - gregoryl 5y ago
      Can you agree that there's some threshold where the time required to endure the temporary state is untenable? How can anyone except myself decide what that threshold is?
    - rad_gruchalski 5y ago
      Until one dies anyway.
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johnisgood 5y ago
Because we cannot even define what "clear state of mind" is in a way that an AI would be able to determine.

otabdeveloper4 5y ago

You can already kill yourself if you really want to. Nobody can stop you. The whole idea of "assisted suicide" is like Bitcoin - invented for the express purpose of finding and abusing loopholes in the current legal frameworks.

kergonath 5y ago
Sometimes legal frameworks are inhumane, immoral, cruel, and ought to be loopholed. I can think of at least 5 examples right now.
gambiting 5y ago
Yes, someone who is paralyzed from their neck down can easily take their own life, of course. Don't see any issue here. You have to excuse the sarcasm, but if you really can't think of any cases where taking your own life in a dignified manner is not actually possible, then I'm not sure there's any discussion to be had here
tasty_freeze 5y ago
There are multiple ways one might commit suicide, it is true. But some are more reliable than others; some leave a terrible mess for someone (perhaps a family member) to clean up; some are more painful than others; some may put other people at risk. The worst outcome is when a person tries to kill themselves and ends up alive but in an even worse condition. For people who don't have religious prohibitions on suicide, having a reliable, simple, low cost, low-pain, low-mess option sounds great to me.

ajsnigrutin 5y ago

Sucide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Usually, atleast a few other methods should be used to help, before deciding on suicide (with a notable exception of being close to a very painful, inevitable death, and just wanting to shorten the suffering).

sokoloff 5y ago
Suicide is a permanent solution. Sometimes it’s a solution to a temporary problem; other times to a permanent problem.
- pbsull 5y ago
  Suicide causes permanent state change. Life and all of life’s problems are temporary state.
  - PUSH_AX 5y ago
    > all of life’s problems are temporary state. Not all. Incurable disease is just one example.
  - kergonath 5y ago
    That’s such an absurd point of view. When the duration of the problems is comparable to your expected lifespan, it is permanent for all intent and purposes. Sure, an incurable illness is not permanent in that it has to end when the person die. That’s not a useful point to make.
  - gregoryl 5y ago
    Can you agree that there's some threshold where the time required to endure the temporary state is untenable? How can anyone except myself decide what that threshold is?
  - rad_gruchalski 5y ago
    Until one dies anyway.
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johnisgood 5y ago

Because we cannot even define what "clear state of mind" is in a way that an AI would be able to determine.