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> I wan't to commit suicide HAL > I'm sorry, I'm afraid I can't let you do that Dave Better than the opposite case where the AI has the ability to mandate sui

> I wan't to commit suicide HAL > I'm sorry, I'm afraid I can't let you do that Dave Better than the opposite case where the AI has the ability to mandate suicide.

dqpb 5y ago
Well, you know Apple watches can detect you are getting sick, before you experience any symptoms, via changes to your heart rate. A maximally effective suicide AI should also be able to detect that you are a good suicide candidate before you even start having ideation, and proactively convince you of this fact.
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i_like_waiting 5y ago
> I wan't to commit suicide HAL > I'm sorry, but you have outstanding debt please resolve it before continuing > Program will continue after this short ad from Coffins Inc. you cannot scale those things effectively with doctors as middlemen
fennecfoxen 5y ago
> the ability to mandate suicide 'to mandate suicide' is typically reduced to 'commit homicide'
- hereforphone 5y ago
  Can AI commit homicide? Does cancer commit homicide?
  - johnisgood 5y ago
    Someone who programmed the AI committed homicide using/programming the AI. But then... what about bugs? What if these bugs are not incidental? Let us assume that they are. Would it count then as non-premeditated murder? Who are the people who reviewed the code in this case, then? Accessories?
throwawayboise 5y ago
https://memegenerator.net/instance/67435723/clippy-hi-i-am-clippy-it-looks-like-youre-typing-a-suicide-note https://memegenerator.net/instance/67435723/clippy-hi-i-am-c...
AJ007 5y ago
I’m not sure if there is any difference. They are assuming that their “AI” is acting alone and in a very narrowly defined context. What’s to say the human voluntarily entered this capsule and the “AI” does what that person wishes? One could take the Kim Jong-nam assassination as an example where the participants may have believed something completely different was occurring than the true context. In the absence of “AI” someone could reverse the do die/do not die button. However, adding an additional, pliable layer is a bad idea. Whether it is autonomous weapons or this, once AI or machine learning is added, the human is no longer in full control.

> I wan't to commit suicide HAL > I'm sorry, I'm afraid I can't let you do that Dave Better than the opposite case where the AI has the ability to mandate suicide.

dqpb 5y ago

Well, you know Apple watches can detect you are getting sick, before you experience any symptoms, via changes to your heart rate. A maximally effective suicide AI should also be able to detect that you are a good suicide candidate before you even start having ideation, and proactively convince you of this fact.

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i_like_waiting 5y ago

> I wan't to commit suicide HAL > I'm sorry, but you have outstanding debt please resolve it before continuing > Program will continue after this short ad from Coffins Inc. you cannot scale those things effectively with doctors as middlemen

fennecfoxen 5y ago

> the ability to mandate suicide 'to mandate suicide' is typically reduced to 'commit homicide'

hereforphone 5y ago
Can AI commit homicide? Does cancer commit homicide?
- johnisgood 5y ago
  Someone who programmed the AI committed homicide using/programming the AI. But then... what about bugs? What if these bugs are not incidental? Let us assume that they are. Would it count then as non-premeditated murder? Who are the people who reviewed the code in this case, then? Accessories?

throwawayboise 5y ago

https://memegenerator.net/instance/67435723/clippy-hi-i-am-clippy-it-looks-like-youre-typing-a-suicide-note https://memegenerator.net/instance/67435723/clippy-hi-i-am-c...

AJ007 5y ago

I’m not sure if there is any difference. They are assuming that their “AI” is acting alone and in a very narrowly defined context. What’s to say the human voluntarily entered this capsule and the “AI” does what that person wishes? One could take the Kim Jong-nam assassination as an example where the participants may have believed something completely different was occurring than the true context. In the absence of “AI” someone could reverse the do die/do not die button. However, adding an additional, pliable layer is a bad idea. Whether it is autonomous weapons or this, once AI or machine learning is added, the human is no longer in full control.