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This whole thing is a terrible idea. All of it.
by bjt2n3904 5y ago
This whole thing is a terrible idea. All of it.
- cadence- 5y agoWhy? There is no more personal thing than your own life. Why should not we be able to choose when to end it? People will be doing it anyways, just in all the gruesome ways it is usually done. Hopefully this container doubles as a coffin that can be either buried or burnt.
- otabdeveloper4 5y agoYou can already kill yourself if you really want to. Nobody can stop you. The whole idea of "assisted suicide" is like Bitcoin - invented for the express purpose of finding and abusing loopholes in the current legal frameworks.
- kergonath 5y agoSometimes legal frameworks are inhumane, immoral, cruel, and ought to be loopholed. I can think of at least 5 examples right now.
- gambiting 5y agoYes, someone who is paralyzed from their neck down can easily take their own life, of course. Don't see any issue here. You have to excuse the sarcasm, but if you really can't think of any cases where taking your own life in a dignified manner is not actually possible, then I'm not sure there's any discussion to be had here
- tasty_freeze 5y agoThere are multiple ways one might commit suicide, it is true. But some are more reliable than others; some leave a terrible mess for someone (perhaps a family member) to clean up; some are more painful than others; some may put other people at risk. The worst outcome is when a person tries to kill themselves and ends up alive but in an even worse condition. For people who don't have religious prohibitions on suicide, having a reliable, simple, low cost, low-pain, low-mess option sounds great to me.
- ajsnigrutin 5y agoSucide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Usually, atleast a few other methods should be used to help, before deciding on suicide (with a notable exception of being close to a very painful, inevitable death, and just wanting to shorten the suffering).
- sokoloff 5y agoSuicide is a permanent solution. Sometimes it’s a solution to a temporary problem; other times to a permanent problem.
- pbsull 5y agoSuicide causes permanent state change. Life and all of life’s problems are temporary state.
- PUSH_AX 5y ago> all of life’s problems are temporary state. Not all. Incurable disease is just one example.
- kergonath 5y agoThat’s such an absurd point of view. When the duration of the problems is comparable to your expected lifespan, it is permanent for all intent and purposes. Sure, an incurable illness is not permanent in that it has to end when the person die. That’s not a useful point to make.
- gregoryl 5y agoCan you agree that there's some threshold where the time required to endure the temporary state is untenable? How can anyone except myself decide what that threshold is?
- rad_gruchalski 5y agoUntil one dies anyway.
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- johnisgood 5y agoBecause we cannot even define what "clear state of mind" is in a way that an AI would be able to determine.
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- Quarrelsome 5y agoI see you haven't had to care for someone with Alzheimer's before. Its not a terrible idea, as a society we retain some naïve and arguably zealous notions around death which often makes us push towards natural outcomes. Some natural outcomes are different from others in that they're significantly worse for all parties involved. Those outcomes are a subject that should be given more attention and seriousness as opposed to mere emotional rejection.
- 14 5y agoCare giver here and someone who has directly worked with individuals who have done the MAID (medically assisted induced death). A person with Alzheimer’s would automatically be disqualified for consideration as they lack the mental capacity to consent to such a thing. This will most likely never be offered for that group of people. They typically are not suffering though some do get terrified at times but in general they are just lost in their world with not much insight as to why things are that way.
- therealdrag0 5y agoWhat if you had an advanced directive that explicitly called out that scenario? Not saying the law would cover that, but it plausibly could.
- Pasorrijer 5y agoIn Canada, yes, advanced directives can be written.
- 14 5y agoNot for assisted death and something like Alzheimer’s. That directive is for something like you are in a car accident and are on life support. You can have it say no life support. You can not currently say if I get Alzheimer’s I want to die it is not legally possible at this time.
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- 14 5y agoCould you elaborate on what parts you find terrible? It seems like a peaceful way to die for some.
- pydry 5y agoGiving AI the power to approve suicides?
- 14 5y agoWell I don’t know the details but I don’t think this is a suicide booth just anyone can use you would still need to have a doctor verify you had a terminal illness and then I could be left with you to use at the time you were ready. The AI is simply making sure you are of sound mind at the time of death. Which means you can answer a few questions and it wouldn’t be that hard to determine if someone was if sound mind there are plenty of mental state exams that a computer could give.
- throwaway6734 5y agoWhy? If I ever get dementia I would like the opportunity to end my own life before it progresses too far.
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- can16358p 5y agoThen don't use it.