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Journals Blocking 'Offensive' Publications

12 points by silexia 5y ago

silexia 5y ago
I saw this posted to HN by someone else, but when I went to discuss it the discuss button took me to a blank page. I discovered this article had been censored somehow off HN, either by a moderator or an automated algo using human flags.
- ok_dad 5y ago
  Probably because it's a flame bait editorial that takes things out of context to promote a moral panic. It's not interesting to continually see this political crap on HN, and it's not going to cause a thought provoking comment section. Resubmitting an article that was flagged or dead due to whatever mechanisms occur in the background is basically spam.
  - silexia 5y ago
    If you disagree with an article, just explain why in the comments. Shutting down discussion of it does not enlighten those who may be in the wrong. I think that this article is quite valuable and relevant and cites specific examples of how groupthink is harming science and learning in universities. There's a reproducibility crisis in science and part of it is because unpopular research like negative findings or a study that can't reproduce another study don't get published. The problem gets much worse whenever you touch on any politically sensitive issues.
    - ok_dad 5y ago
      My point was that this isn't appropriate for HN, it's more appropriate for specific Reddit communities, Facebook, Twitter, or the like. Thanks for replying in a rational and polite way, though, since often these topics cause comments to become very contentious. I'm done in here though, I prefer the more interesting conversations and this topic is like a dead horse. See the off topic section in here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
leephillips 5y ago
I started reading the article with interest but gave up when I saw how they were misquoting people. The editors there, and/or the author, need to learn the difference between parentheses and square brackets within a quotation.
max-ibel 5y ago
Societies had to deal with this like forever: Science (including humanities) in China/Russia was subordinated to communist ideology. Galileo had to tussle with the Church. So far, science has won out (mostly because it produces results and provides the equivalent of an evolutionary advantage). I'm hopeful we'll survive the current ideological tides, like in the past :)

12 points by silexia 5y ago

I saw this posted to HN by someone else, but when I went to discuss it the discuss button took me to a blank page. I discovered this article had been censored somehow off HN, either by a moderator or an automated algo using human flags.

ok_dad 5y ago
Probably because it's a flame bait editorial that takes things out of context to promote a moral panic. It's not interesting to continually see this political crap on HN, and it's not going to cause a thought provoking comment section. Resubmitting an article that was flagged or dead due to whatever mechanisms occur in the background is basically spam.
- silexia 5y ago
  If you disagree with an article, just explain why in the comments. Shutting down discussion of it does not enlighten those who may be in the wrong. I think that this article is quite valuable and relevant and cites specific examples of how groupthink is harming science and learning in universities. There's a reproducibility crisis in science and part of it is because unpopular research like negative findings or a study that can't reproduce another study don't get published. The problem gets much worse whenever you touch on any politically sensitive issues.
  - ok_dad 5y ago
    My point was that this isn't appropriate for HN, it's more appropriate for specific Reddit communities, Facebook, Twitter, or the like. Thanks for replying in a rational and polite way, though, since often these topics cause comments to become very contentious. I'm done in here though, I prefer the more interesting conversations and this topic is like a dead horse. See the off topic section in here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

leephillips 5y ago

I started reading the article with interest but gave up when I saw how they were misquoting people. The editors there, and/or the author, need to learn the difference between parentheses and square brackets within a quotation.

max-ibel 5y ago

Societies had to deal with this like forever: Science (including humanities) in China/Russia was subordinated to communist ideology. Galileo had to tussle with the Church. So far, science has won out (mostly because it produces results and provides the equivalent of an evolutionary advantage). I'm hopeful we'll survive the current ideological tides, like in the past :)