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Web3 is not bullshit, nobody actually defined it properly, just like nobody defined properly what is Web0, Web1 and Web2. Web versioning methodology is bs, not

by matesz 5y ago

Web3 is not bullshit, nobody actually defined it properly, just like nobody defined properly what is Web0, Web1 and Web2. Web versioning methodology is bs, not the general concept of pinpointing what makes a big leap. Does anybody here have a link to proper methodology for versioning the Web? ps. Web is simply referring to a web of connected “pages” through links. Pretty much anybody who claims to work on Web3 says nothing about links.

flohofwoe 5y ago
So far, all "WebX" names turned out to be bullshit (or at best, pointless). Besides, the cryptobros seem to have a somewhat short memory: "Web3" was going to be the "Semantic Web" (which of course turned out to be bullshit too), so if anything, we're now at "Web4" for the next pointless hype cycle.
- Canotdohng 5y ago
  For context, the definition of web 3.0 from Tim Berners-Lee gives a good idea an the level of hazyness of this concept: > People keep asking what Web 3.0 is. I think maybe when you've got an overlay of scalable vector graphics — everything rippling and folding and looking misty — on Web 2.0 and access to a semantic Web integrated across a huge space of data, you'll have access to an unbelievable data resource.
- matesz 5y ago
  I think the problem is that we are lacking distinction between Web and the and IT tech in general. Web is just making all this accessible - links. Blockchain adds big benefit to the general usefulness of the Internet - for instance possibility of doing anonymous transactions, with all of its downsides of course. Not enough for a major version bump though. It’s just a small blip on entire spectrum of IT tech.
dvh 5y ago
So like "agile development", everybody will define it by themselves.
monkeydust 5y ago
This. As soon as I first heard about web3 I thought did I miss web2?
- Canotdohng 5y ago
  Yes, fifteen to twenty years ago, it was used to refer to the emphasis on user-generated content and the generalization of social media.
  - flohofwoe 5y ago
    What is a regular personal "Web 1.0" website other than "user generated content" though. If anything, "Web 2.0" was the perversion of the original WWW idea by "big tech". We already had the "decentralized web" for a few golden years before the bean counters discovered the internet.
    - Kbelicius 5y ago
      > What is a regular personal "Web 1.0" website other than "user generated content" though. It wasn't user generated. User in this case being the visitor to a website and not its creator.
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    - mattlondon 5y ago
      Your personal page is likely largely static (in content, if not tech) and defined by you, the site owner. Web 2 allowed the public site users to generate/curate the content on the site.
      - creamytaco 5y ago
        This is either outright bullshit or a clumsy attempt at historical revisionism. Web2 didn't introduce technology that wasn't existing before. It was the unwashed masses flooding what had previously been a space of high SNR AND the big corporations seizing control (and terms like "web2" were used to that effect) in order to exploit the herd. This is happening again now with the web3 fad. A new generation of gullible idiots and sociopaths to take them for a ride.
Canotdohng 5y ago
> The hazy vision of new decentralized internet, built on the blockchain Ten years ago, web 3.0 was supposed to be the semantic web (whatever happened to this fad).

by matesz 5y ago

flohofwoe 5y ago

So far, all "WebX" names turned out to be bullshit (or at best, pointless). Besides, the cryptobros seem to have a somewhat short memory: "Web3" was going to be the "Semantic Web" (which of course turned out to be bullshit too), so if anything, we're now at "Web4" for the next pointless hype cycle.

Canotdohng 5y ago
For context, the definition of web 3.0 from Tim Berners-Lee gives a good idea an the level of hazyness of this concept: > People keep asking what Web 3.0 is. I think maybe when you've got an overlay of scalable vector graphics — everything rippling and folding and looking misty — on Web 2.0 and access to a semantic Web integrated across a huge space of data, you'll have access to an unbelievable data resource.
matesz 5y ago
I think the problem is that we are lacking distinction between Web and the and IT tech in general. Web is just making all this accessible - links. Blockchain adds big benefit to the general usefulness of the Internet - for instance possibility of doing anonymous transactions, with all of its downsides of course. Not enough for a major version bump though. It’s just a small blip on entire spectrum of IT tech.

dvh 5y ago

So like "agile development", everybody will define it by themselves.

monkeydust 5y ago

This. As soon as I first heard about web3 I thought did I miss web2?

Canotdohng 5y ago
Yes, fifteen to twenty years ago, it was used to refer to the emphasis on user-generated content and the generalization of social media.
- flohofwoe 5y ago
  What is a regular personal "Web 1.0" website other than "user generated content" though. If anything, "Web 2.0" was the perversion of the original WWW idea by "big tech". We already had the "decentralized web" for a few golden years before the bean counters discovered the internet.
  - Kbelicius 5y ago
    > What is a regular personal "Web 1.0" website other than "user generated content" though. It wasn't user generated. User in this case being the visitor to a website and not its creator.
    - deleted 5y ago
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  - mattlondon 5y ago
    Your personal page is likely largely static (in content, if not tech) and defined by you, the site owner. Web 2 allowed the public site users to generate/curate the content on the site.
    - creamytaco 5y ago
      This is either outright bullshit or a clumsy attempt at historical revisionism. Web2 didn't introduce technology that wasn't existing before. It was the unwashed masses flooding what had previously been a space of high SNR AND the big corporations seizing control (and terms like "web2" were used to that effect) in order to exploit the herd. This is happening again now with the web3 fad. A new generation of gullible idiots and sociopaths to take them for a ride.

Canotdohng 5y ago

> The hazy vision of new decentralized internet, built on the blockchain Ten years ago, web 3.0 was supposed to be the semantic web (whatever happened to this fad).