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I wonder how many if those alpha worlds are preserved. I started when the alpha was free and the beta was pay, and the scope of those alpha worlds was just incr

I wonder how many if those alpha worlds are preserved. I started when the alpha was free and the beta was pay, and the scope of those alpha worlds was just incredible. There wasn't much in the way of nature in the alpha so all those worlds were more art project than construction.

ykl 5y ago
With the current launcher, you can actually pick which version/update to play, including old versions. For Java Edition, it lists versions all the way back to alpha as options.
- rightbyte 5y ago
  This is so user-unhostile I wanna cry. Most companies just want the power to force antifeutures on the users nowadays.
  - RugnirViking 5y ago
    The Microsoft acquisition of Minecraft is inexplicably one of the few big tech acquisitions that hasn't completely destroyed the product. It's impressive
    - rightbyte 5y ago
      Ye well MS can't wish the old offline installers out of existence I guess.
      - Wowfunhappy 5y ago
        ...is there an offline installer for Java Minecraft? I think it always downloads most of the real game at first run.
    - fnord123 5y ago
      Eh, aside from making java and bedrock incompatible, requiring Xbox live accounts to play, deleting customer accounts in the transition to Xbox live, making realms which are different somehow from java and bedrock (many parents had a devil if a time figuring out how to setup a server for kids playing on all the platforms during lockdown)... Aside from this they didn't ruin it.
      - goblin89 5y ago
        IMO the worst among the things Microsoft is doing to Minecraft is introducing an in-game currency (to an already paid game!). They target Bedrock for this, and I strongly suspect once it starts bringing in extra money they will essentially kill further Java edition development.
        eropple 5y ago
        IMO, the Java edition doesn't really need additional development, though. It's absolutely nice to have, but the reason (for me) to play the Java version is the community.
        bombcar 5y ago
        Correct - many modpacks are still on 1.7 or 1.12 anyway.
        goblin89 5y ago
        The problem in this scenario will be feature disparity. If they want, they can add cool stuff to Bedrock, and make vanilla Java version feel old and obsolete just the way 1.12 (which probably has the most mods) looks now when compared with fresh 1.18. Then, by making Bedrock available to people who paid for Java, they would give a hassle-free way for players and modders to try it, and many will probably stick to the latest version. I do hope, if this scenario comes about, the community will keep the Java version alive by maintaining feature parity, but there’re fundamental issues where some features might not be easily backported on Java due to performance limitations, plus community fragmentation as different modders try to backport same new features in different mutually incompatible ways.
    - DonHopkins 5y ago
      One way Microsoft improved the product was to remove all mentions of Markus "It's OK To Be White" Persson's name from the game. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markus_Persson#Controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markus_Persson#Controversy >Controversy >Persson has received criticism for political and social opinions he has expressed on Twitter, such as referring to feminism as a "social disease" and claiming that most feminists are "overtly sexist against men."[50][51] In June 2017, Persson faced criticism for referring to video game developer Zoë Quinn as a "cunt".[50] Later in June 2017, he tweeted in support of a heterosexual pride day, calling opponents to the idea "cunts" and stating that they "deserve to be shot".[51] After facing backlash, he deleted the tweets and rescinded his statements, writing "So yeah, it's about pride of daring to express, not about pride of being who you are. I get it now."[52] In November 2017, Persson was criticized for posting a tweet which reads "It's ok to be white."[53] In follow-up tweets, he said he believed privilege is a "made up metric".[54] >A March 2019 Minecraft update removed all mentions of Persson from the game's menu, though his name is still in the credits.[55] Microsoft did not explain this action, but its timing led multiple news outlets to conclude it was related to the controversies associated with him.[55][56] Persson was not invited to the game's tenth anniversary event later that year, with Microsoft saying that his views "do not reflect those of Microsoft or Mojang".[8][57] Microsoft then dissociated from Persson due to his controversial comments on his Twitter account.[8] "It's okay to be white": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_okay_to_be_white https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_okay_to_be_white Minecraft Creator Tells Women on Twitter ‘Act Like a Cunt, Get Called a Cunt’: https://observer.com/2017/06/minecraft-gamergate-markus-persson-notch-zoe-quinn/ https://observer.com/2017/06/minecraft-gamergate-markus-pers... Minecraft’s Creator Excluded From the Game’s 10th Anniversary Due to Racist, Sexist, Transphobic Comments https://www.themarysue.com/notch-minecraft-bad-comments-and-opinions/ https://www.themarysue.com/notch-minecraft-bad-comments-and-... Minecraft Creator Sparks Cries of Homophobia https://fortune.com/2017/07/02/minecraft-markus-persson-homophobia/ https://fortune.com/2017/07/02/minecraft-markus-persson-homo... ‘Minecraft’ Creator Excluded From Anniversary Due to ‘Comments and Opinions’ (EXCLUSIVE) https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/minecraft-creator-excluded-from-anniversary-due-to-comments-and-opinions-exclusive-1203200050/ https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/minecraft-creator-exclu... The Creator of Minecraft Tweeted Some Dumb Stuff About Race https://www.gq.com/story/notch-whiteness-tweets https://www.gq.com/story/notch-whiteness-tweets Microsoft removes references to game creator Notch in latest Minecraft update https://www.techspot.com/news/79403-microsoft-removes-references-game-creator-notch-latest-minecraft.html https://www.techspot.com/news/79403-microsoft-removes-refere... Some References to ‘Minecraft’ Creator Notch Removed From Game https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/notch-removed-minecraft-1203174964/ https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/notch-removed-minecraft... Minecraft creator Notch won't be included in the game's 10 year anniversary event https://www.vg247.com/minecraft-creator-notch-absent-from-anniversary-due-to-opinions-and-comments https://www.vg247.com/minecraft-creator-notch-absent-from-an...
    - null4bl3 5y ago
      They soon plan to only allow logging in with Microsoft accounts no?
trotFunky 5y ago
Minecraft is one of the biggest games of my teenage years, starting in Alpha, and I always was a bit paranoid, making backups and copies of things. As the sibling comment points out, you can go back in versions from the game launcher itself and I recently did a nostalgia trip loading up those worlds again, seeing how the game has evolved, how my playing style evolved... By loading them into a few intermediate versions, you can even get them to load in the latest one ! I really appreciate to be able to do that. (Even if I still have a couple of copies of the older versions I could play with !)

ykl 5y ago

With the current launcher, you can actually pick which version/update to play, including old versions. For Java Edition, it lists versions all the way back to alpha as options.

rightbyte 5y ago
This is so user-unhostile I wanna cry. Most companies just want the power to force antifeutures on the users nowadays.
- RugnirViking 5y ago
  The Microsoft acquisition of Minecraft is inexplicably one of the few big tech acquisitions that hasn't completely destroyed the product. It's impressive
  - rightbyte 5y ago
    Ye well MS can't wish the old offline installers out of existence I guess.
    - Wowfunhappy 5y ago
      ...is there an offline installer for Java Minecraft? I think it always downloads most of the real game at first run.
  - fnord123 5y ago
    Eh, aside from making java and bedrock incompatible, requiring Xbox live accounts to play, deleting customer accounts in the transition to Xbox live, making realms which are different somehow from java and bedrock (many parents had a devil if a time figuring out how to setup a server for kids playing on all the platforms during lockdown)... Aside from this they didn't ruin it.
    - goblin89 5y ago
      IMO the worst among the things Microsoft is doing to Minecraft is introducing an in-game currency (to an already paid game!). They target Bedrock for this, and I strongly suspect once it starts bringing in extra money they will essentially kill further Java edition development.
      - eropple 5y ago
        IMO, the Java edition doesn't really need additional development, though. It's absolutely nice to have, but the reason (for me) to play the Java version is the community.
        bombcar 5y ago
        Correct - many modpacks are still on 1.7 or 1.12 anyway.
        goblin89 5y ago
        The problem in this scenario will be feature disparity. If they want, they can add cool stuff to Bedrock, and make vanilla Java version feel old and obsolete just the way 1.12 (which probably has the most mods) looks now when compared with fresh 1.18. Then, by making Bedrock available to people who paid for Java, they would give a hassle-free way for players and modders to try it, and many will probably stick to the latest version. I do hope, if this scenario comes about, the community will keep the Java version alive by maintaining feature parity, but there’re fundamental issues where some features might not be easily backported on Java due to performance limitations, plus community fragmentation as different modders try to backport same new features in different mutually incompatible ways.
  - DonHopkins 5y ago
    One way Microsoft improved the product was to remove all mentions of Markus "It's OK To Be White" Persson's name from the game. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markus_Persson#Controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markus_Persson#Controversy >Controversy >Persson has received criticism for political and social opinions he has expressed on Twitter, such as referring to feminism as a "social disease" and claiming that most feminists are "overtly sexist against men."[50][51] In June 2017, Persson faced criticism for referring to video game developer Zoë Quinn as a "cunt".[50] Later in June 2017, he tweeted in support of a heterosexual pride day, calling opponents to the idea "cunts" and stating that they "deserve to be shot".[51] After facing backlash, he deleted the tweets and rescinded his statements, writing "So yeah, it's about pride of daring to express, not about pride of being who you are. I get it now."[52] In November 2017, Persson was criticized for posting a tweet which reads "It's ok to be white."[53] In follow-up tweets, he said he believed privilege is a "made up metric".[54] >A March 2019 Minecraft update removed all mentions of Persson from the game's menu, though his name is still in the credits.[55] Microsoft did not explain this action, but its timing led multiple news outlets to conclude it was related to the controversies associated with him.[55][56] Persson was not invited to the game's tenth anniversary event later that year, with Microsoft saying that his views "do not reflect those of Microsoft or Mojang".[8][57] Microsoft then dissociated from Persson due to his controversial comments on his Twitter account.[8] "It's okay to be white": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_okay_to_be_white https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_okay_to_be_white Minecraft Creator Tells Women on Twitter ‘Act Like a Cunt, Get Called a Cunt’: https://observer.com/2017/06/minecraft-gamergate-markus-persson-notch-zoe-quinn/ https://observer.com/2017/06/minecraft-gamergate-markus-pers... Minecraft’s Creator Excluded From the Game’s 10th Anniversary Due to Racist, Sexist, Transphobic Comments https://www.themarysue.com/notch-minecraft-bad-comments-and-opinions/ https://www.themarysue.com/notch-minecraft-bad-comments-and-... Minecraft Creator Sparks Cries of Homophobia https://fortune.com/2017/07/02/minecraft-markus-persson-homophobia/ https://fortune.com/2017/07/02/minecraft-markus-persson-homo... ‘Minecraft’ Creator Excluded From Anniversary Due to ‘Comments and Opinions’ (EXCLUSIVE) https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/minecraft-creator-excluded-from-anniversary-due-to-comments-and-opinions-exclusive-1203200050/ https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/minecraft-creator-exclu... The Creator of Minecraft Tweeted Some Dumb Stuff About Race https://www.gq.com/story/notch-whiteness-tweets https://www.gq.com/story/notch-whiteness-tweets Microsoft removes references to game creator Notch in latest Minecraft update https://www.techspot.com/news/79403-microsoft-removes-references-game-creator-notch-latest-minecraft.html https://www.techspot.com/news/79403-microsoft-removes-refere... Some References to ‘Minecraft’ Creator Notch Removed From Game https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/notch-removed-minecraft-1203174964/ https://variety.com/2019/gaming/news/notch-removed-minecraft... Minecraft creator Notch won't be included in the game's 10 year anniversary event https://www.vg247.com/minecraft-creator-notch-absent-from-anniversary-due-to-opinions-and-comments https://www.vg247.com/minecraft-creator-notch-absent-from-an...
  - null4bl3 5y ago
    They soon plan to only allow logging in with Microsoft accounts no?

trotFunky 5y ago

Minecraft is one of the biggest games of my teenage years, starting in Alpha, and I always was a bit paranoid, making backups and copies of things. As the sibling comment points out, you can go back in versions from the game launcher itself and I recently did a nostalgia trip loading up those worlds again, seeing how the game has evolved, how my playing style evolved... By loading them into a few intermediate versions, you can even get them to load in the latest one ! I really appreciate to be able to do that. (Even if I still have a couple of copies of the older versions I could play with !)