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Isn't making the CPU wider one of the things Apple also did with M1? Doesn't feel like they are the first.
by aledalgrande 5y ago
Isn't making the CPU wider one of the things Apple also did with M1? Doesn't feel like they are the first.
- wmf 5y agoApple designed the M1. AWS is (probably) using off-the-shelf Neoverse V1 cores that they did not design. [Imagine "you made this, I made this" meme here]
- vineyardmike 5y agoThey have a huge design team making custom silicon. They deserve a bit more credit even if they’re leaning on ARM IP.
- ashtonkem 5y agoThe rest of the server has to be designed too, since they can’t just buy from Dell or some other OEM and put Graviton into it. At their scale this means management software and hardware too, which is a right old pain in the butt to design and deploy.
- StreamBright 5y agoThey do not "just buy from x". They have their own motherboard design and they also got Amazon flavored Intel CPUs. It was just question of time to start to produce their own CPU. A vertically integrated stack pays off in the long run.
- MobiusHorizons 5y agoIt is an important distinction between designing an SOC with ARM provided cores and designing the cores from scratch. People on this thread are comparing AWS’s achievement to the M1, but that’s just in a totally different ballpark. Obviously still hard to design custom silicon and custom servers around it, but it’s fair to say that’s a for cry from “optimizing the cores for the workloads that run on EC2” as has been suggested in this thread.
- vineyardmike 5y agoDo we know that they're just using ARM cores without any custom work? Do we know this isn't similar to a "cloud M1" in terms of design work?
- wyldfire 5y agoMaybe but M1 doesn't really compete in this market.