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Some people decided to differentiate someone that “happens to be black” from someone “that is Black”. The idea is that being Black is political and why a conser

Some people decided to differentiate someone that “happens to be black” from someone “that is Black”. The idea is that being Black is political and why a conservative person that happens to have black skin is not Black. This type of codes language also helps people determine if you’re an “ally” or outsider. In essence things like race have been vertically integrated into every facet of culture outside of traditional politics possible. From elementary school to media companies to corporate diversity statements to Hollywood movies - an efficient (and remarkable really) propaganda machine. It is integrated into institutions which gives the most radical and militant a safe place to retreat to for cover.

aiisjustanif 5y ago
Any proof to back up these statements?
- nemo44x 5y ago
  Read the work of Kimberlé Crenshaw and bell hooks - they clearly define the difference between “am Black” vs “happen to be black”. Why do I have to do the work for you when you can’t be bothered to be aware of the world you live in?
  - dude187 5y ago
    > Why do I have to do the work for you when you can’t be bothered to be aware of the world you live in? It's just another form of the social media derived "[citation needed]" thought terminating cliche. Any time someone either doesn't feel like a topic should be discussed, or that your point isn't even worth addressing, can just silence you by suddenly requiring you to speak through someone else. Original thought, open debate and honest inquisition is no longer allowed!
    - nemo44x 5y ago
      It's amazing that people can't be bothered to even read a summary of the last 60 years of civil rights and social justice movements - the good, the bad and the ugly. It's like they stop at 1964 and just forget all the movements and groups that have come and gone and morphed into other things, etc. It's difficult for some to see the difference between the formal meaning (yay diversity!) and real meaning (so-and-so gets resources because of their race) of politics and issues.
  - aiisjustanif 5y ago
    I am aware. Just less aware of yours. The reason for my question is not one of silence it’s because your statements are opinionated not facts. I’m Black, I wouldn’t say I fully identify with the left or right politically, but I was raised with some conservative values because most of the rural black community I’m from holds those values. Where I from we seek to conserve values and traditions important to us and restore institutions we would like preserved. Whether that’s religious institutions or better education for community. It’s just ridiculous to me that you would say identifying as conservative means you are not Black. Much of black people of southern United States have conservative values and identify with them, however voting for conservative officials doesn’t make one conservative. You can vote for someone who is in a left political party and still be conservative. Being Black is as political as non-black people make it. As stereotypical things go I can go about hunting, going to church, and whatever else without being labeled an outsider. Your assumptions drive just as much division from where I’m standing. Point being I just think your view is limited and you should take time to see how Black populations may think in Mississippi, Alabama, Texas, Louisiana. Carolinas, the list goes on.

aiisjustanif 5y ago

Any proof to back up these statements?

nemo44x 5y ago
Read the work of Kimberlé Crenshaw and bell hooks - they clearly define the difference between “am Black” vs “happen to be black”. Why do I have to do the work for you when you can’t be bothered to be aware of the world you live in?
- dude187 5y ago
  > Why do I have to do the work for you when you can’t be bothered to be aware of the world you live in? It's just another form of the social media derived "[citation needed]" thought terminating cliche. Any time someone either doesn't feel like a topic should be discussed, or that your point isn't even worth addressing, can just silence you by suddenly requiring you to speak through someone else. Original thought, open debate and honest inquisition is no longer allowed!
  - nemo44x 5y ago
    It's amazing that people can't be bothered to even read a summary of the last 60 years of civil rights and social justice movements - the good, the bad and the ugly. It's like they stop at 1964 and just forget all the movements and groups that have come and gone and morphed into other things, etc. It's difficult for some to see the difference between the formal meaning (yay diversity!) and real meaning (so-and-so gets resources because of their race) of politics and issues.
- aiisjustanif 5y ago
  I am aware. Just less aware of yours. The reason for my question is not one of silence it’s because your statements are opinionated not facts. I’m Black, I wouldn’t say I fully identify with the left or right politically, but I was raised with some conservative values because most of the rural black community I’m from holds those values. Where I from we seek to conserve values and traditions important to us and restore institutions we would like preserved. Whether that’s religious institutions or better education for community. It’s just ridiculous to me that you would say identifying as conservative means you are not Black. Much of black people of southern United States have conservative values and identify with them, however voting for conservative officials doesn’t make one conservative. You can vote for someone who is in a left political party and still be conservative. Being Black is as political as non-black people make it. As stereotypical things go I can go about hunting, going to church, and whatever else without being labeled an outsider. Your assumptions drive just as much division from where I’m standing. Point being I just think your view is limited and you should take time to see how Black populations may think in Mississippi, Alabama, Texas, Louisiana. Carolinas, the list goes on.