> we even rely on organizations and parties to lobby for our interests. This may be some of the cultural divide that's flummoxing this conversation. In the US,

> we even rely on organizations and parties to lobby for our interests. This may be some of the cultural divide that's flummoxing this conversation. In the US, many if not most of us have lost faith that this process is even remotely reliable. We have studies that back this up - policy decisions are made in favor of the wealthy very reliably, but for the rest of us, it's luck of the draw when we get what we want.