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Tools are amoral. A 90 pound woman using a tool built of metal to defend herself from home incursion and possible rape implies no morals to the metal tool. Tool

Tools are amoral. A 90 pound woman using a tool built of metal to defend herself from home incursion and possible rape implies no morals to the metal tool. Tools can be a defensive equalizer, and should be readily available.

dathinab 5y ago
> Tools are amoral. That's a red hering argument. (In my opinion.) Tools are designed for a use case. Tools are also widely used for some (potentially different) use case. As such tools are often not amoral at all. A assault riffle is designed to kill people and potentially many of them (self defense per gun doesn't require killing). As such it's not a amoral tool. Even through you might end up using it in a "good" way, or as "hobby" it's design makes it fundamentally a "weapon for killing, not self defense". Through this is kinda getting off-topic. Because whatever moral you want to attach to tools is irrelevant for aboves discussion. Crypto currencies are a tool for unchecked Kaptialism, which has nothing to do with moral nor does it mean others can't use it for other purposes.
- landemva 5y ago
  When did private money / store of value become 'unchecked Kapitalism'? Is gold also unchecked Kapitalism? Seems we both can agree USA-funded murderer Lon Horiuchi did an evil thing when he pulled the trigger and killed an unarmed mother using an assault rifle. https://lmtribune.com/northwest/fbi-sniper-is-at-the-center-of-storm-thats-still-lingering-over-ruby-ridge-those/article_efccccf2-82af-50c2-a95c-20ab91f94dcb.html https://lmtribune.com/northwest/fbi-sniper-is-at-the-center-... 'which Horiuchi said was aimed at Weaver's friend Kevin Harris, instead killed Weaver's wife Vicki. It then hit Harris, lodging in his chest.'
  - dathinab 5y ago
    when it wasn't designed as a tool to "just" store value but to circumvent any "checks" on value transfer/ownership etc. I mean that's the whole point of crypto currencies. Both for good and bad.
frollo 5y ago
Tools have use cases and use cases are not amoral. You can argue that in some cases otherwise immoral actions can be justified (such as your example), but this doesn't justify said actions moral outside that case. Assuming that a tool is amoral just because it, theoreatically, could be used to act in a morally justified way is just cherry-picking situations in order to have them fit your worldview.

dathinab 5y ago

> Tools are amoral. That's a red hering argument. (In my opinion.) Tools are designed for a use case. Tools are also widely used for some (potentially different) use case. As such tools are often not amoral at all. A assault riffle is designed to kill people and potentially many of them (self defense per gun doesn't require killing). As such it's not a amoral tool. Even through you might end up using it in a "good" way, or as "hobby" it's design makes it fundamentally a "weapon for killing, not self defense". Through this is kinda getting off-topic. Because whatever moral you want to attach to tools is irrelevant for aboves discussion. Crypto currencies are a tool for unchecked Kaptialism, which has nothing to do with moral nor does it mean others can't use it for other purposes.

landemva 5y ago
When did private money / store of value become 'unchecked Kapitalism'? Is gold also unchecked Kapitalism? Seems we both can agree USA-funded murderer Lon Horiuchi did an evil thing when he pulled the trigger and killed an unarmed mother using an assault rifle. https://lmtribune.com/northwest/fbi-sniper-is-at-the-center-of-storm-thats-still-lingering-over-ruby-ridge-those/article_efccccf2-82af-50c2-a95c-20ab91f94dcb.html https://lmtribune.com/northwest/fbi-sniper-is-at-the-center-... 'which Horiuchi said was aimed at Weaver's friend Kevin Harris, instead killed Weaver's wife Vicki. It then hit Harris, lodging in his chest.'
- dathinab 5y ago
  when it wasn't designed as a tool to "just" store value but to circumvent any "checks" on value transfer/ownership etc. I mean that's the whole point of crypto currencies. Both for good and bad.

frollo 5y ago

Tools have use cases and use cases are not amoral. You can argue that in some cases otherwise immoral actions can be justified (such as your example), but this doesn't justify said actions moral outside that case. Assuming that a tool is amoral just because it, theoreatically, could be used to act in a morally justified way is just cherry-picking situations in order to have them fit your worldview.