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To me the advice of "If your current job has bad labor conditions, find a better one" has an implicit meaning of "Certain jobs have bad labor conditions, and th
by rahidz 5y ago
To me the advice of "If your current job has bad labor conditions, find a better one" has an implicit meaning of "Certain jobs have bad labor conditions, and this is fine".
People are realizing this shouldn't be, and between protesting and quitting, are making themselves heard.
- GhettoComputers 5y agoYou might not have a better choice, and choose it. You might not appreciate the flexible hours of McDonald’s, but that is no reason to force your choice upon the world as your experiences are the correct one. If I don’t like programming should all programming jobs be banned? I don’t like cooking, is that reason no cooking jobs should exist?
- malermeister 5y ago"If I don't like to be exploited, shouldn't others still be able to?" No. No, they shouldn't. Some working conditions are straight up bad and exploitative and nobody should be forced to put up with them.
- GhettoComputers 5y agoWho is forced? Those jobs interviews weren’t held at gunpoint. If (You personally don’t like a job) { Ban anyone from doing it even if they like it. }
- malermeister 5y agoPeople that have no other means of supporting their family are forced though economic means. Do you really think anybody works the night shift at a fast food joint because they enjoy spending their time that way? No, but they do it because otherwise their kid starves. Exploitative capitalism doesn't often need to resort to guns. Usually the threat of starvation or dying from preventable disease is coercive enough.
- GhettoComputers 5y ago> Do you really think anybody works the night shift at a fast food joint because they enjoy spending their time that way? Yes. I did and others who are night owls and wanted to fuck around, give people extra food, and not work did, but you want to take away our happiness at hanging out not working hard at night instead of staring at the ceiling.
- lovich 5y agoYea, sometimes if you engage in a behavior that creates negative externalities (like providing companies the ability to exploit others by bidding your rights to the floor) then we put limitations on your behavior. It is not a novel concept
- GhettoComputers 5y agoYour comment would be relevant if it was minimum wage, but the strawman you’re generating isn’t rooted in any reality.
- gruez 5y ago>People that have no other means of supporting their family are forced though economic means. What's the alternative then? forcing other people to support those people?
- GhettoComputers 5y agoRealistically they make BS government jobs like the TSA.
- aww_dang 5y agoIf there is an opportunity in the market to create a better job, then someone should capitalize on the opportunity. If the opportunity does not exist or cannot be manifested into existence due to a lack of imagination, who is to blame? Bad is better than worse. Any incremental improvement is better still, but Utopia is always unattainable. The world is an unfair place. We can work to make it better. However conditions will never be ideal. These bad jobs are still better than worse jobs. The premise is an appeal to Utopia. The logic is regressive. Unfair is subjective. Working conditions have generally improved over the years. Given the choice, laborers of the past would prefer the present. In the present unfairness can always be appealed to. The ideal job might be to collect money while enjoying a leisure activity or pursuing a passion. One role of the entrepreneur is to manifest these situations into profitable enterprises. This is the kind of work which improves labor conditions. Regressive appeals to unfairness will not get us there.