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Why don’t they get another job? These people are inept and blame situations like getting cancer on their job? Healthcare plans not a thing, or Obamacare not exi

Why don’t they get another job? These people are inept and blame situations like getting cancer on their job? Healthcare plans not a thing, or Obamacare not existing? > Yes freedom!!!! From taxes (for the rich) and unions and the freedom to be forced into bankruptcy because you made the grave mistake of getting cancer. Base means isn’t forward thinking, Warren Buffett and Bill Gates have enough money but what if they wants to give to do more? If you taxed estates to 100% what do you think would happen?

smus 5y ago
> Why don’t they get another job? These people are inept and blame situations like getting cancer on their job? You're suggesting that the entire service class get another job not in the service class? So now there's no more restaurants, fast food or otherwise, in the US? No more garbage men? If you agree that those jobs are essential to society's functioning, then don't you think we should treat and compensate them accordingly? It doesn't seem like your position is well thought out.
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  Is your position thought out or factual? Garbage men are well paid, why did you assume otherwise? >The average hourly pay for a Garbage Man is $17.68. Visit PayScale to research garbage man hourly pay by city, experience, skill, employer and more. I know college educated people who work at restaurants because they made more money there. I haven’t eaten at a restaurant, and COVID closed many, is it really essential?
  - gokdisjtrdcvv5 5y ago
    > I haven’t eaten at a restaurant, and COVID closed many, is it really essential? Did you really just say that we should shut down all restaurants? I’m assuming not so it would be nice if you could explain more.
    - GhettoComputers 5y ago
      Where did you get that or “all”? They aren’t essential and I don’t care what happens to them the same way I don’t care about bars I never went to shutting down.
  - smus 5y ago
    Wow, 36k a year! What a livable wage! Even your cherry picked example doesn't really prove your point, but the vast majority of other service workers are treated worse. And if you're truly arguing society could function if we just deleted all jobs with poor working conditions, you're delusional. We haven't even mentioned factory workers in Asia yet.
oliwarner 5y ago
This and its follow ups are a worrying stream of consciousness and I'm not entirely sure what I said that you're trying to connect with. > These people are inept and blame situations Which people? People working service? As the thread goes, we can't just delete those roles, pay everyone enough to work less and expect our economy to function as it does. We rely on people having shitty jobs both locally and overseas to make our dream work. We can't get by on unicorn farts. Which is to say there will always be somebody working every hour of the day in these dead-end jobs, reading messages on hacked printers telling them they should just work less... But they don't have that choice. They can't get good because education and opportunity are neither free, instant or even guaranteed. Nobody here is blaming anybody for that, I just think you don't understand how the world works. > if they wants to give to do more? This is at the other end of my argument, people actually being able to work less in their high-paying careers. This isn't affected by your theoretical monster taxes or them suddenly really wanting a yacht. If cost of living goes up, the sums change and they need to weigh things up again.

smus 5y ago

> Why don’t they get another job? These people are inept and blame situations like getting cancer on their job? You're suggesting that the entire service class get another job not in the service class? So now there's no more restaurants, fast food or otherwise, in the US? No more garbage men? If you agree that those jobs are essential to society's functioning, then don't you think we should treat and compensate them accordingly? It doesn't seem like your position is well thought out.

GhettoComputers 5y ago
Is your position thought out or factual? Garbage men are well paid, why did you assume otherwise? >The average hourly pay for a Garbage Man is $17.68. Visit PayScale to research garbage man hourly pay by city, experience, skill, employer and more. I know college educated people who work at restaurants because they made more money there. I haven’t eaten at a restaurant, and COVID closed many, is it really essential?
- gokdisjtrdcvv5 5y ago
  > I haven’t eaten at a restaurant, and COVID closed many, is it really essential? Did you really just say that we should shut down all restaurants? I’m assuming not so it would be nice if you could explain more.
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    Where did you get that or “all”? They aren’t essential and I don’t care what happens to them the same way I don’t care about bars I never went to shutting down.
- smus 5y ago
  Wow, 36k a year! What a livable wage! Even your cherry picked example doesn't really prove your point, but the vast majority of other service workers are treated worse. And if you're truly arguing society could function if we just deleted all jobs with poor working conditions, you're delusional. We haven't even mentioned factory workers in Asia yet.

oliwarner 5y ago

This and its follow ups are a worrying stream of consciousness and I'm not entirely sure what I said that you're trying to connect with. > These people are inept and blame situations Which people? People working service? As the thread goes, we can't just delete those roles, pay everyone enough to work less and expect our economy to function as it does. We rely on people having shitty jobs both locally and overseas to make our dream work. We can't get by on unicorn farts. Which is to say there will always be somebody working every hour of the day in these dead-end jobs, reading messages on hacked printers telling them they should just work less... But they don't have that choice. They can't get good because education and opportunity are neither free, instant or even guaranteed. Nobody here is blaming anybody for that, I just think you don't understand how the world works. > if they wants to give to do more? This is at the other end of my argument, people actually being able to work less in their high-paying careers. This isn't affected by your theoretical monster taxes or them suddenly really wanting a yacht. If cost of living goes up, the sums change and they need to weigh things up again.