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Have you tried the Framework Laptop? It's a great example of how small start-ups can build better devices than the giants. Difficult, yes -- impossible, no.
by EB66 5y ago
Have you tried the Framework Laptop? It's a great example of how small start-ups can build better devices than the giants. Difficult, yes -- impossible, no.
- dash2 5y agoIt's a niche product for hardware hackers. (That's why its sales are so low.)
- EB66 5y agoWhether it's a niche product or not is beside the point. The point is that a small entity can build a device that is arguably better designed, better reviewed, affordable and readily available for purchase.
- dash2 5y agoMe, an economist: if it's better, why does nobody buy it?
- EB66 5y agoPeople are buying it... so much so that Framework has been struggling to keep up with the demand. All of their early batches sold out well in advance. I placed my order two months ago and it was backordered for a month. Batch 6 (the current batch) is the first batch they've had all year where they haven't been massively backordered.
- dash2 5y agoI'm glad, but Apple ships millions of Macs every quarter. When Framework catch up, then I'll agree they're better and not niche. Of course as a hacker I might prefer Framework, believe it is better, even evangelize it. That's a different use of the word, though.
- jlokier 5y agoThe original question was whether a small company can make a better device than a very large company. Here you've defined "better" to include "can ship very large quantities", which is almost a circular way of defining the answer to be negative, no matter what the company does. If it can ship very large quantities, it's not a small company.
- dash2 5y agoIndeed, my original point was that there are huge economies of scale in design. That's why it would be a bad idea for everything to be small-scale and local, which the GP was arguing for.
- pdimitar 5y agoIt doesn't really matter that it's a niche product. The mere fact that it's out there does show to less tech savvy people what's possible. That's very important because many of them are not even aware things can be done differently.
- School-Cotton 5y agoThe Framework is only better than a MacBook Pro if you care about repairability, customizability, freedom, etc., which most people don’t. It’s also worse in many ways — less polished OS UI, worse screen resolution.
- EB66 5y ago> The Framework is only better than a MacBook Pro if you care about repairability, customizability, freedom, etc. Those are three pretty huge things... For me personally, repairability is secondary to their very convenient modular IO port system. > Less polished OS UI. You can have them install Windows without the typical manufacturer bloatware or you can put *nix on it. For me, that's better than macOS. > worse screen resolution The resolution on the MacBook Pro 13 and the Framework are nearly the same: 2560 x 1600 vs 2256 x 1504.
- pxc 5y agoImo people overstate how good the macOS UX is. It's fine if you're used to it, but when I started using it for the first time there were lots of little unpleasant surprises and inconsistencies. The way people talk about macOS' design gave me expectations that macOS did not meet.
- dexter89_kp3 5y agoFramework laptop is not possible without the supply chain investments made by large conglomerates.
- EB66 5y agoTrue, but is that relevant? All companies, big and small, depend on all manner of services, materials, infrastructure, etc that are provided by other entities.
- pdimitar 5y agoEven if that's true, what does it matter and what are you implying? No innovation because the big good corps paved the way before that? Imagine what would happen if Rome made those big and long roads all across Europe and then nobody used them out of respect of all the labor that went into them. :D