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I have only taken a short look at r/antiwork, but you seem to be mostly arguing against a straw man of the thing most people are arguing for there, which is muc

by detaro 5y ago

I have only taken a short look at r/antiwork, but you seem to be mostly arguing against a straw man of the thing most people are arguing for there, which is much more "work shouldn't have to be shitty and all-consuming" than "don't work at all".

GhettoComputers 5y ago
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- blinger88 5y ago
  Just for contrast, this thread posted from someone claiming they’d introduced perks at their company to keep their employees happy was pretty well celebrated: https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/qzgqnr/from_a_manager_this_sub_has_changed_my_company/ https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/qzgqnr/from_a_man...
- tgb 5y ago
  The 'find another job' aspect is one of the most common themes on that subreddit. It's full of people telling their manager they don't have to put up with any BS because they can find another job by tomorrow, and then doing that. If you want a counterexample to your insistence that they don't want any jobs, here's one I found in thirty seconds of browsing the front page of r/antiwork: https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/r8pkgk/i_think_i_found_the_perfect_job_but_its_cleaning/ https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/r8pkgk/i_think_i_... I have a really good job with a good manager and r/antiwork has given me a lot of sympathy for what too many other people have to put up with.
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    I sorted my feed by rising so that’s a nice thread about finding better work.
jasode 5y ago
>I have only taken a short look at r/antiwork, [...], which is much more "work shouldn't have to be shitty and all-consuming" than "don't work at all". I was curious about /r/antiwork based on your comment so I looked at it and the description says: "A subreddit for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life," I also noticed these 2 links in the subreddit's "Intro" sidebar : - The Mythology of Work: https://crimethinc.com/2018/09/03/the-mythology-of-work-eight-myths-that-keep-your-eyes-on-the-clock-and-your-nose-to-the-grindstone https://crimethinc.com/2018/09/03/the-mythology-of-work-eigh... : >What if nobody worked? [...] That depends on what you mean by “work.” Think about how many people enjoy gardening, fishing, carpentry, cooking, and even computer programming just for their own sake. What if that kind of activity could provide for all our needs? - The Abolition of Work : https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/bob-black-the-abolition-of-work https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/bob-black-the-abolit... : > No one should ever work. Work is the source of nearly all the misery in the world. Almost any evil you’d care to name comes from working or from living in a world designed for work. In order to stop suffering, we have to stop working. That doesn’t mean we have to stop doing things. It does mean creating a new way of life based on play; in other words, a ludic conviviality, commensality, and maybe even art. So if we assume that picking up garbage is not a form of "play" like fishing or art, nobody should have to _be_ garbage workers for society to function. It seems plausible that a garbage worker who is doing the job only for the pay instead of "joyful playing with trash" would post that sentiment on /r/antiwork as it's compatible with the 2 essays that the subreddit wants you to read.
- drBonkers 5y ago
  See /r/detrashed [1] [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/DeTrashed/top/ https://www.reddit.com/r/DeTrashed/top/
- hkt 5y ago
  It seems to me the subreddit has been appropriated somewhat by its users, rather than led by its moderators. I wouldn't expect anyone feels constrained by a "party line" of what's in the sidebar. I suspect many people using it on mobile (like me) haven't even seen those essays.

by detaro 5y ago

GhettoComputers 5y ago

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blinger88 5y ago
Just for contrast, this thread posted from someone claiming they’d introduced perks at their company to keep their employees happy was pretty well celebrated: https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/qzgqnr/from_a_manager_this_sub_has_changed_my_company/ https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/qzgqnr/from_a_man...
tgb 5y ago
The 'find another job' aspect is one of the most common themes on that subreddit. It's full of people telling their manager they don't have to put up with any BS because they can find another job by tomorrow, and then doing that. If you want a counterexample to your insistence that they don't want any jobs, here's one I found in thirty seconds of browsing the front page of r/antiwork: https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/r8pkgk/i_think_i_found_the_perfect_job_but_its_cleaning/ https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/r8pkgk/i_think_i_... I have a really good job with a good manager and r/antiwork has given me a lot of sympathy for what too many other people have to put up with.
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  I sorted my feed by rising so that’s a nice thread about finding better work.

jasode 5y ago

>I have only taken a short look at r/antiwork, [...], which is much more "work shouldn't have to be shitty and all-consuming" than "don't work at all". I was curious about /r/antiwork based on your comment so I looked at it and the description says: "A subreddit for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life," I also noticed these 2 links in the subreddit's "Intro" sidebar : - The Mythology of Work: https://crimethinc.com/2018/09/03/the-mythology-of-work-eight-myths-that-keep-your-eyes-on-the-clock-and-your-nose-to-the-grindstone https://crimethinc.com/2018/09/03/the-mythology-of-work-eigh... : >What if nobody worked? [...] That depends on what you mean by “work.” Think about how many people enjoy gardening, fishing, carpentry, cooking, and even computer programming just for their own sake. What if that kind of activity could provide for all our needs? - The Abolition of Work : https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/bob-black-the-abolition-of-work https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/bob-black-the-abolit... : > No one should ever work. Work is the source of nearly all the misery in the world. Almost any evil you’d care to name comes from working or from living in a world designed for work. In order to stop suffering, we have to stop working. That doesn’t mean we have to stop doing things. It does mean creating a new way of life based on play; in other words, a ludic conviviality, commensality, and maybe even art. So if we assume that picking up garbage is not a form of "play" like fishing or art, nobody should have to _be_ garbage workers for society to function. It seems plausible that a garbage worker who is doing the job only for the pay instead of "joyful playing with trash" would post that sentiment on /r/antiwork as it's compatible with the 2 essays that the subreddit wants you to read.

drBonkers 5y ago
See /r/detrashed [1] [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/DeTrashed/top/ https://www.reddit.com/r/DeTrashed/top/
hkt 5y ago
It seems to me the subreddit has been appropriated somewhat by its users, rather than led by its moderators. I wouldn't expect anyone feels constrained by a "party line" of what's in the sidebar. I suspect many people using it on mobile (like me) haven't even seen those essays.