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The article's author, Jeff Elder, writes: > Now, I don’t know about you, but I have three reactions to this: Now, I don’t know about you, but I have one react

The article's author, Jeff Elder, writes: > Now, I don’t know about you, but I have three reactions to this: Now, I don’t know about you, but I have one reaction to this: you're a newspaper reporter, Jeff. State the facts; I don't care about your opinion.

legutierr 5y ago
You are reading this article for free on the internet. Provided that his employer is OK with it, he can do whatever he wants.
prpl 5y ago
you are obviously unfamiliar with the examiner
- lelandfe 5y ago
  The line “I don’t know what ‘unGoogley’ means” should tell you everything you need to know
sokoloff 5y ago
I don’t think this tweet is the original source, but it was the only source I could find. https://mobile.twitter.com/ryanafournier/status/1087766048584204288 https://mobile.twitter.com/ryanafournier/status/108776604858... > The news used to tell you that something happened, then you had to decide what you thought about it. > Now the news tells you how to think about something, and you have to decided if it even happened.
- beebeepka 5y ago
  Was it ever any different, though? I know it looks like things have changed like your quote days but the question remains. Having trust in something does not make it true
  - MrDunham 5y ago
    See the book “Trust me, I’m lying” to see how the US journeyed from ad & attention driven media (yellow journalism) to subscription/brand driven journalism (The New York Times was one of the first with “all the news that’s fit to print”), back to ad/attention driven journalism on steroids (the internet + Google news and Facebook - though less for FB since the algorithm updates). It’s a great/terrifying book and I’ve personally witnessed the results Edit: To clarify, I point this out because there was a good 80ish years where journalism was less about grabbing and holding your attention and more about maintaining subscribers. Since it was very hard to maintain subscribers if you just kept throwing click bait and half-accurate news at them, it helped improve their accuracy.
jason-phillips 5y ago
> State the facts; I don't care about your opinion. I believe it was a young Edward R Murrow who submitted copy to his editor who later returned it, saying, "Cut the sauce, Murrow!" Finding something palatable to read these days is quite the struggle.
newaccount74 5y ago
Have you ever read a newspaper? Newspapers are full of op-eds, commentary, and opinion. Some quality newspapers will separate the two, having a section for reporting facts, and a section for opinions, but many papers don't have this strict distinction. And to be honest, the fact that some Google subcontractor fired an employee isn't really the kind of world-shattering news that warrants a strictly fact based objective news article that everyone must read about. It's just not important enough. You can however use it as a hook for an opinion piece, like this reporter has done.
samhw 5y ago
Thank you. I totally agree. It's absolutely exhausting to read journalism which is endlessly hammering you with the value judgements you're meant to make. Just give me the facts, and I can do the opinions myself.

legutierr 5y ago

You are reading this article for free on the internet. Provided that his employer is OK with it, he can do whatever he wants.

prpl 5y ago

you are obviously unfamiliar with the examiner

lelandfe 5y ago
The line “I don’t know what ‘unGoogley’ means” should tell you everything you need to know

sokoloff 5y ago

I don’t think this tweet is the original source, but it was the only source I could find. https://mobile.twitter.com/ryanafournier/status/1087766048584204288 https://mobile.twitter.com/ryanafournier/status/108776604858... > The news used to tell you that something happened, then you had to decide what you thought about it. > Now the news tells you how to think about something, and you have to decided if it even happened.

beebeepka 5y ago
Was it ever any different, though? I know it looks like things have changed like your quote days but the question remains. Having trust in something does not make it true
- MrDunham 5y ago
  See the book “Trust me, I’m lying” to see how the US journeyed from ad & attention driven media (yellow journalism) to subscription/brand driven journalism (The New York Times was one of the first with “all the news that’s fit to print”), back to ad/attention driven journalism on steroids (the internet + Google news and Facebook - though less for FB since the algorithm updates). It’s a great/terrifying book and I’ve personally witnessed the results Edit: To clarify, I point this out because there was a good 80ish years where journalism was less about grabbing and holding your attention and more about maintaining subscribers. Since it was very hard to maintain subscribers if you just kept throwing click bait and half-accurate news at them, it helped improve their accuracy.

jason-phillips 5y ago

> State the facts; I don't care about your opinion. I believe it was a young Edward R Murrow who submitted copy to his editor who later returned it, saying, "Cut the sauce, Murrow!" Finding something palatable to read these days is quite the struggle.

newaccount74 5y ago

Have you ever read a newspaper? Newspapers are full of op-eds, commentary, and opinion. Some quality newspapers will separate the two, having a section for reporting facts, and a section for opinions, but many papers don't have this strict distinction. And to be honest, the fact that some Google subcontractor fired an employee isn't really the kind of world-shattering news that warrants a strictly fact based objective news article that everyone must read about. It's just not important enough. You can however use it as a hook for an opinion piece, like this reporter has done.

samhw 5y ago

Thank you. I totally agree. It's absolutely exhausting to read journalism which is endlessly hammering you with the value judgements you're meant to make. Just give me the facts, and I can do the opinions myself.