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> Ionity's chargers are And their availability is?

clouddrover 5y ago
Excellent. And they're not the only DC fast charging provider. There's FastNed, EnBW, Allego, etc. Even Tesla has started to open their chargers to all makes (only 10 sites in the Netherlands so far).
- dmitriid 5y ago
  Define "excellent". As in "available to anyone at anytime at short notice"?
  - clouddrover 5y ago
    Nothing is available to anyone at anytime at short notice, except possibly disappointment. Here are examples of some of the best charging stations in Europe and the UK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TVohXHjLro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TVohXHjLro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK2shbCwDYM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK2shbCwDYM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoN4WCpuxHY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoN4WCpuxHY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yra3AsicSRY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yra3AsicSRY
    - dmitriid 5y ago
      > Nothing is available to anyone at anytime at short notice Funny. When I drive a regular car, gas stations are available all the time, at short notice. With a throughput of possibly hundreds of cars an hour.
      - clouddrover 5y ago
        Nope. Fuel shortage: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/28/business/fuel-shortage-uk-intl-scli-gbr/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/28/business/fuel-shortage-uk... Fuel shortage: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59059093 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59059093 Fuel shortage: https://www.digitaljournal.com/world/canadian-province-extends-fuel-rationing-after-flooding/article https://www.digitaljournal.com/world/canadian-province-exten... Fuel shortage: https://www.ibtimes.com/diesel-shortage-amid-soaring-prices-truck-stops-resort-rationing-3334927 https://www.ibtimes.com/diesel-shortage-amid-soaring-prices-... Things are tough all over in the real world.
        dmitriid 5y ago
        > Nope Yup > Fuel shortage Ah yes. Extraordinary short-term events affecting only some regions vs. chronic shortage of available fast chargers pretty much everywhere. Yup, same thing.
        clouddrover 5y ago
        > Extraordinary short-term events You picked the conditions of the contest, son. You claimed "available to anyone at any time at short notice". You were straight up wrong. Deal with it.
        dmitriid 5y ago
        It's not a contest, and I didn't pick conditions for it. This is called a reality. This all started with a discussion of a long trip. The reality is that, at best, EVs require you to do very careful planning with potentially lengthy breaks regardless of "excellent coverage" and exuberant youtube ads of "best charging stations".
        clouddrover 5y ago
        If your grand insight is that charging infrastructure is still being built out then that's no insight at all. New stations are going in daily. Look, if you're too afraid to think about EVs now then the best advice is not to worry about it. Live in the happy tail as a late adopter. By then all the decisions will have been made for you and you won't have to think.
        dmitriid 5y ago
        > Look, if you're too afraid to think about EVs Ah yes. "Son", "deal with it", "afraid to think about EVs", a couple of Youtube vidoes. The grand arguments of a person who pretends they have any arguments. No one is "afraid to think about EVs". Those who actually think about EVs see what they are, and all the problems they have right now. Good luck to early adopters, come back when you have more arguments than those listed above.

Excellent. And they're not the only DC fast charging provider. There's FastNed, EnBW, Allego, etc. Even Tesla has started to open their chargers to all makes (only 10 sites in the Netherlands so far).

dmitriid 5y ago
Define "excellent". As in "available to anyone at anytime at short notice"?
- clouddrover 5y ago
  Nothing is available to anyone at anytime at short notice, except possibly disappointment. Here are examples of some of the best charging stations in Europe and the UK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TVohXHjLro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TVohXHjLro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK2shbCwDYM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK2shbCwDYM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoN4WCpuxHY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoN4WCpuxHY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yra3AsicSRY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yra3AsicSRY
  - dmitriid 5y ago
    > Nothing is available to anyone at anytime at short notice Funny. When I drive a regular car, gas stations are available all the time, at short notice. With a throughput of possibly hundreds of cars an hour.
    - clouddrover 5y ago
      Nope. Fuel shortage: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/28/business/fuel-shortage-uk-intl-scli-gbr/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/28/business/fuel-shortage-uk... Fuel shortage: https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59059093 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59059093 Fuel shortage: https://www.digitaljournal.com/world/canadian-province-extends-fuel-rationing-after-flooding/article https://www.digitaljournal.com/world/canadian-province-exten... Fuel shortage: https://www.ibtimes.com/diesel-shortage-amid-soaring-prices-truck-stops-resort-rationing-3334927 https://www.ibtimes.com/diesel-shortage-amid-soaring-prices-... Things are tough all over in the real world.
      - dmitriid 5y ago
        > Nope Yup > Fuel shortage Ah yes. Extraordinary short-term events affecting only some regions vs. chronic shortage of available fast chargers pretty much everywhere. Yup, same thing.
        clouddrover 5y ago
        > Extraordinary short-term events You picked the conditions of the contest, son. You claimed "available to anyone at any time at short notice". You were straight up wrong. Deal with it.
        dmitriid 5y ago
        It's not a contest, and I didn't pick conditions for it. This is called a reality. This all started with a discussion of a long trip. The reality is that, at best, EVs require you to do very careful planning with potentially lengthy breaks regardless of "excellent coverage" and exuberant youtube ads of "best charging stations".
        clouddrover 5y ago
        If your grand insight is that charging infrastructure is still being built out then that's no insight at all. New stations are going in daily. Look, if you're too afraid to think about EVs now then the best advice is not to worry about it. Live in the happy tail as a late adopter. By then all the decisions will have been made for you and you won't have to think.
        dmitriid 5y ago
        > Look, if you're too afraid to think about EVs Ah yes. "Son", "deal with it", "afraid to think about EVs", a couple of Youtube vidoes. The grand arguments of a person who pretends they have any arguments. No one is "afraid to think about EVs". Those who actually think about EVs see what they are, and all the problems they have right now. Good luck to early adopters, come back when you have more arguments than those listed above.