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As a fellow European you are grossly overstating the convenience of electrics based on a very special experience of living in Norway. Western Europe (where I l
by zemvpferreira 5y ago
As a fellow European you are grossly overstating the convenience of electrics based on a very special experience of living in Norway.
Western Europe (where I live) relies on street parking and has very little capacity for overnight charging. I regularly see people camping out for chargers in mall parking lots. I can't imagine the situation is much different in urban Romania, Poland or Lithuania.
I wish we had a charging grid that allowed for most private cars to be electric without any range anxiety, but that's just not true right now. You might also wish for street parking to go away (I do) but that's not happening either.
- Krasnol 5y agoIt's still hard even in Germany and than you have broken charging stations on the Autobahn or fossil cars parking on charging spots (even though it's punishable now). Your employer won't have charging station at his place "because". You don't have one at home because you don't live in a house and so on. We're seeing just another dividing line going through our society here. An fully electric car says a lot about your income. It's like a huge new IPhone everybody can see.
- _0w8t 5y agoThe first paragraph describes the situation in Norway that was like 5-6 years ago. The second is less applicable in Norway due to zero tax policy on electric cars and like 100% in total taxes on ICE. So even 5 years ago it could be sensible to get an electrical car for a family with kids. Still at that time people complained in Oslo that electric cars were for the rich folk that got them as the second car to drive in bus lines and avoid traffic jams.
- Krasnol 5y agoUnfortunately I don't believe much will change with the new German government as the green party gave away the Ministry of Transport to get the more prestigious Foreign Ministry....yeah. Btw...did you see the new BMW SUV? So awesome!!111elf
- trulyme 5y agoInteresting thought... If those with higher income, who presumably can charge overnight, keep buying new electric cars, will the market for used electric cars saturate because others don't have this privilege (that much) and other infrastructure is not good enough yet?
- Krasnol 5y agoWe'll see about that. Right now most of them buy hybrids they never charge.
- dtech 5y agoIn a purely electric car world, all street parking will have charger stations like they would have analog parking meters a few decades ago. In my western European city of ~100k people there's hundreds of such spots already. Capacity is rapidly being added too. On the scale of obstacles, this one is pretty minor, just requiring enough (political) willpower to achieve.
- Febra33 5y agoI don't know where you live but I live in western Europe and almost every household owns a car that they park somewhere on the street. There almost no charging stations around. Now I just can't imagine a universe where every street has enough chargers for EVERY single household. That's just utopic.
- toomuchtodo 5y agoIs there a gas pump for every street parked car? No. Contention for EV charging is trivial to charge with a combination of home, workplace, public parking, and street parking charging.
- Swizec 5y agoYou don’t need a gas pump for every car because gassing up doesn’t take hours. In many places there isn’t even enough street parking to reliably park your car every night. You often have to park illegally and wake up early to move the car before the ticket comes. If there isn’t even enough parking how is there going to be enough overnight charging?
- toomuchtodo 5y agoAre you telling me the car is never parked legally anywhere and is in constant motion? Charging exclusively at fast DC chargers is feasible and done by many Tesla owners.
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- PicassoCTs 5y agoDrumwhirl.. Cue.. a robot-cabledrum, hiding beneath a manhole cover- they only come out at night to charge you - but hey at least they charge you for it.