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Abusive to who? To YouTube? This is one step removed from not being able to criticize [elided so as not to send this thread the wrong direction; use your imagi

Abusive to who? To YouTube? This is one step removed from not being able to criticize [elided so as not to send this thread the wrong direction; use your imagination]. It was a handjob. He wasn’t wrong. And his comment abused no one, merely a corporation. If you’re arguing that an ML algorithm picked up on their comment and deemed it problematic enough to shadowban him forever with no appeals process, then that’d be even worse. But doing it manually is nearly as bad. Remember, you can’t just “create a new account” on YouTube. You have a fan base. The only reason we heard his message at all today was because YouTube chose not to restrict his ability to post videos too; other moderators might. Especially against someone so abusive, who is clearly harming the wider community… right? I think this type of thing is going to become a bigger deal over the next decade. Being shadowbanned from Twitter would kill me; I’ve put years of effort into it. But we’re one handjob away from people being fine with it.

consp 5y ago
> And his comment abused no one, merely a corporation. Corporations are people too you know.
root_axis 5y ago
> Being shadowbanned from Twitter would kill me; I’ve put years of effort into it. This doesn't sound like healthy engagement. When people talk this way about online video games we consider it an addiction issue that needs addressing.
- thesnowdog 5y ago
  You can't think of one single 'healthy' reason to invest years of effort in cultivating a social media presence?
  - jerska 5y ago
    On a single platform, no.
bserge 5y ago
Are you sure it would be that bad? Social Media is a horrible addiction. Look at me, dead account and I'm still posting here. Why not make a new account? Because I realized this is all worthless shit. Whether anyone sees my comment or not, it doesn't fucking matter, it's just people puking their thoughts on a screen. Which is exactly what I'm doing right now, it's a fucked up compulsion and addiction I've developed over a decade. I was happier in 2005 when all I had was a few niche forums where we actually worked on shit together. These general discussions are garbage.
amcoastal 5y ago
I visited your Twitter. You really think you can't live without THAT?

consp 5y ago

> And his comment abused no one, merely a corporation. Corporations are people too you know.

root_axis 5y ago

> Being shadowbanned from Twitter would kill me; I’ve put years of effort into it. This doesn't sound like healthy engagement. When people talk this way about online video games we consider it an addiction issue that needs addressing.

thesnowdog 5y ago
You can't think of one single 'healthy' reason to invest years of effort in cultivating a social media presence?
- jerska 5y ago
  On a single platform, no.

bserge 5y ago

Are you sure it would be that bad? Social Media is a horrible addiction. Look at me, dead account and I'm still posting here. Why not make a new account? Because I realized this is all worthless shit. Whether anyone sees my comment or not, it doesn't fucking matter, it's just people puking their thoughts on a screen. Which is exactly what I'm doing right now, it's a fucked up compulsion and addiction I've developed over a decade. I was happier in 2005 when all I had was a few niche forums where we actually worked on shit together. These general discussions are garbage.

amcoastal 5y ago

I visited your Twitter. You really think you can't live without THAT?