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In Europe you get paid more, especially in Switzerland. And in general, English is sufficient for getting a CS PhD in Europe. Two examples of many: - https://

In Europe you get paid more, especially in Switzerland. And in general, English is sufficient for getting a CS PhD in Europe. Two examples of many: - https://imprs.is.mpg.de/ https://imprs.is.mpg.de/ - https://ethz.ch/en/the-eth-zurich/working-teaching-and-research/welcome-center/employment-contract-and-salary/salary.html https://ethz.ch/en/the-eth-zurich/working-teaching-and-resea...

Dracophoenix 5y ago
I was once told that ETH Zurich renders instruction in German and requires it for certain courses. Is that still the case?
- smithsonian112 5y ago
  For PhD and masters level, everything is in English except maybe some specific civil engineering courses about regulations. Also, I believe that for CS, everything is in English starting from Bachelors, with lectures in English and small problem classes being held either in German or English (you can choose).
- Shacklz 5y ago
  Back when I was there, the first year of BSc was fully in German (apparently mandated by law), afterwards, there was the occasional lecture in German but usually with slides/exercises/exams available in English as well as English-speaking tutors. There are also students from the French/Italian part of Switzerland, so there's a natural convergence towards English rather quick, at least that was my experience. (take this with a grain of salt, it's been a while and my information might be outdated)
sofixa 5y ago
> English is sufficient for getting a CS PhD in Europe. Depends on the country and programme, but more and more so. Even France, traditionally not at all known for programmes at any level fully in English, has been making huge advancements in those areas, and there are full programmes in the Paris Saclay university hub entirely in English, exclusively to attract foreigners who don't speak French.
0xfaded 5y ago
Are there European universities that don't require a masters degree to start a phd?
- acky 5y ago
  Not to my knowledge. However, there are countries that allow you to have an overlap of a masters and phd (or shorten the masters and begin the phd early). For example: Germany - https://www.academics.de/ratgeber/master-und-promotion-gleichzeitig https://www.academics.de/ratgeber/master-und-promotion-gleic...
  - angrais 5y ago
    Most universities in the United Kingdom do not require a master's to do a PhD.
- eastendguy 5y ago
  Yes, there are. It depends on the program. For example here, no masters is required: https://www.cis.mpg.de/cs-max-planck/ https://www.cis.mpg.de/cs-max-planck/ "During the preparatory phase, students take courses to build on their existing knowledge of core computer science areas. Depending on a student’s prior academic background (e.g., MS degree), course requirements may be partially or completely waived at the time of admission." or here: https://ellis.eu/faqs#can-i-apply-if-i-don-t-have-a-msc-degree https://ellis.eu/faqs#can-i-apply-if-i-don-t-have-a-msc-degr... "Rules in Europe vary. Some participating universities require a MSc, others accept BSc students as well (sometimes under specific conditions). You will find this information in the portal if you click on the list of this year's recruiting advisors."
- chrisseaton 5y ago
  You usually don't need a masters to do a PhD in the UK. In some places you technically don't even need any degree, but in practice you wouldn't get accepted without one. (I was looking into this as an option for someone recently!)
- alcidesfonseca 5y ago
  In Portugal it is usually expected that you have one, but every now and then we accept a student without one. Also notice that in Europe you can get a bachelor and masters in 4-5 years (3+1 or 2), which can be the length of a US undergrad degree.
skrishnamurthi 5y ago
You have to also take into account the cost of living. I've lived in Zürich. It was almost literally twice what it costs me to live in New England, which is one of the most expensive parts of the US. So that 2x stipend will not get you 2x as far.

Dracophoenix 5y ago

I was once told that ETH Zurich renders instruction in German and requires it for certain courses. Is that still the case?

smithsonian112 5y ago
For PhD and masters level, everything is in English except maybe some specific civil engineering courses about regulations. Also, I believe that for CS, everything is in English starting from Bachelors, with lectures in English and small problem classes being held either in German or English (you can choose).
Shacklz 5y ago
Back when I was there, the first year of BSc was fully in German (apparently mandated by law), afterwards, there was the occasional lecture in German but usually with slides/exercises/exams available in English as well as English-speaking tutors. There are also students from the French/Italian part of Switzerland, so there's a natural convergence towards English rather quick, at least that was my experience. (take this with a grain of salt, it's been a while and my information might be outdated)

sofixa 5y ago

> English is sufficient for getting a CS PhD in Europe. Depends on the country and programme, but more and more so. Even France, traditionally not at all known for programmes at any level fully in English, has been making huge advancements in those areas, and there are full programmes in the Paris Saclay university hub entirely in English, exclusively to attract foreigners who don't speak French.

0xfaded 5y ago

Are there European universities that don't require a masters degree to start a phd?

acky 5y ago
Not to my knowledge. However, there are countries that allow you to have an overlap of a masters and phd (or shorten the masters and begin the phd early). For example: Germany - https://www.academics.de/ratgeber/master-und-promotion-gleichzeitig https://www.academics.de/ratgeber/master-und-promotion-gleic...
- angrais 5y ago
  Most universities in the United Kingdom do not require a master's to do a PhD.
eastendguy 5y ago
Yes, there are. It depends on the program. For example here, no masters is required: https://www.cis.mpg.de/cs-max-planck/ https://www.cis.mpg.de/cs-max-planck/ "During the preparatory phase, students take courses to build on their existing knowledge of core computer science areas. Depending on a student’s prior academic background (e.g., MS degree), course requirements may be partially or completely waived at the time of admission." or here: https://ellis.eu/faqs#can-i-apply-if-i-don-t-have-a-msc-degree https://ellis.eu/faqs#can-i-apply-if-i-don-t-have-a-msc-degr... "Rules in Europe vary. Some participating universities require a MSc, others accept BSc students as well (sometimes under specific conditions). You will find this information in the portal if you click on the list of this year's recruiting advisors."
chrisseaton 5y ago
You usually don't need a masters to do a PhD in the UK. In some places you technically don't even need any degree, but in practice you wouldn't get accepted without one. (I was looking into this as an option for someone recently!)
alcidesfonseca 5y ago
In Portugal it is usually expected that you have one, but every now and then we accept a student without one. Also notice that in Europe you can get a bachelor and masters in 4-5 years (3+1 or 2), which can be the length of a US undergrad degree.

skrishnamurthi 5y ago

You have to also take into account the cost of living. I've lived in Zürich. It was almost literally twice what it costs me to live in New England, which is one of the most expensive parts of the US. So that 2x stipend will not get you 2x as far.