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"It was the first decisive game in the classical rounds of a world championship in over five years." I wonder if there’s some way other than time constraints t

"It was the first decisive game in the classical rounds of a world championship in over five years." I wonder if there’s some way other than time constraints to encourage higher variance moves.

bananamerica 5y ago
I'm not an expert, but, from what I can gather, every time someone suggest a solution online they're immediately countered by multiple strong and sound counter arguments.
ARandumGuy 5y ago
There are plenty of ways you could do that. But then you would be playing a completely different game, and hundreds of years of theory and strategy would be gone.
varunprasad 5y ago
The 5 year thing is misleading though. It would have been 4 years if not for COVID. And what it basically means is that there were decisive games 4 years ago, and then 2 years later (the World Chess Championship is played every 2 years), in the 2018 match between Caruana and Magnus there were no decisive games. So essentially there was 1 match with all draws during the standard chess part of the tournament. And that match was between Fabi who is regarded as one of the players with some of the greatest prep and play in standard chess, and Magnus, who is really one of the greatest players, if not the greatest, of all time.
- bjourne 5y ago
  But there were only two decisive games in the match against Karjakin. So 22 of the last 24 classical world championship games were draws (27 out of 30 if we count the current match). Even Magnus himself has said that he thinks it is a little dull.
  - matsemann 5y ago
    Even if the game today ended up with a draw after move 60,it still would have been a banger of a game. The result doesn't matter, it's how they got there.
    - bananamerica 5y ago
      I get what you're saying, but result matters a lot still.
amalcon 5y ago
The usual suggestions are things like making a draw worth 1/3 of a win instead of 1/2, so that positions with more variance actually have higher EV for both players. Obviously this wouldn't work for a match like the current one, though: if there are only two people in the tournament, it's still zero-sum. A lot of people also don't like this sort of plan in general for other reasons.
- bananamerica 5y ago
  The common counter is that there are tournaments like this already and they have the same draw average.
DarylZero 5y ago
Yes, they can change the opening position. This is done in computer vs. computer tournaments because otherwise it'd be all draws.

"It was the first decisive game in the classical rounds of a world championship in over five years." I wonder if there’s some way other than time constraints to encourage higher variance moves.

bananamerica 5y ago

I'm not an expert, but, from what I can gather, every time someone suggest a solution online they're immediately countered by multiple strong and sound counter arguments.

ARandumGuy 5y ago

There are plenty of ways you could do that. But then you would be playing a completely different game, and hundreds of years of theory and strategy would be gone.

varunprasad 5y ago

The 5 year thing is misleading though. It would have been 4 years if not for COVID. And what it basically means is that there were decisive games 4 years ago, and then 2 years later (the World Chess Championship is played every 2 years), in the 2018 match between Caruana and Magnus there were no decisive games. So essentially there was 1 match with all draws during the standard chess part of the tournament. And that match was between Fabi who is regarded as one of the players with some of the greatest prep and play in standard chess, and Magnus, who is really one of the greatest players, if not the greatest, of all time.

bjourne 5y ago
But there were only two decisive games in the match against Karjakin. So 22 of the last 24 classical world championship games were draws (27 out of 30 if we count the current match). Even Magnus himself has said that he thinks it is a little dull.
- matsemann 5y ago
  Even if the game today ended up with a draw after move 60,it still would have been a banger of a game. The result doesn't matter, it's how they got there.
  - bananamerica 5y ago
    I get what you're saying, but result matters a lot still.

amalcon 5y ago

The usual suggestions are things like making a draw worth 1/3 of a win instead of 1/2, so that positions with more variance actually have higher EV for both players. Obviously this wouldn't work for a match like the current one, though: if there are only two people in the tournament, it's still zero-sum. A lot of people also don't like this sort of plan in general for other reasons.

bananamerica 5y ago
The common counter is that there are tournaments like this already and they have the same draw average.

DarylZero 5y ago

Yes, they can change the opening position. This is done in computer vs. computer tournaments because otherwise it'd be all draws.