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Because the competition is being done by throwing money at it... and not in the let's build a fantastic, quick and nice launcher with a world class user experie

Because the competition is being done by throwing money at it... and not in the let's build a fantastic, quick and nice launcher with a world class user experience and amazing tools for developers... But in the same way VC funding artificially lowers the costs/prices to the consumer until they've captured a market and then bam, time to pump them for all they've got. I use it to just grab a game if it's free... and every time I realise they still haven't added dark mode to checkout to match the rest of the app, and get my retinas burnt by the sudden contrast flip.

naikrovek 5y ago
you should learn more about Tim Sweeney. he is all about store openness. read his rants about the windows 8 and windows 10 store(s) for example.
- reificator 5y ago
  Having not read them I would be shocked if they differed dramatically from the points Gabe Newell makes about those same stores. At the end of the day both companies are trying to avoid getting squeezed out by a platform-pack-in monopoly.
  - naikrovek 5y ago
    well with a thick fuzzy qualifier like "differed dramatically" I can't say which side of that you'd end up on, but I can say that his views differ. they were different and compelling enough to get Microsoft to adopt most (maybe all, by now) of what he insisted upon.
- wruza 5y ago
  We are all about happiness and openness until sufficient market share, then the music changes. Steam is a long player, egs seems to be a fast one, that’s it. You have a point, but don’t humanize corps too much.
- tehbeard 5y ago
  While I have no love for Apple or any of the other billion dollar techbro places, Sweeney was the one running the corp. (Epic Games) that deliberately violated a contract (let's leave the discussion of is 30% ethical/justifable for a app store on the table for the moment), and then used a pre-planned ad campaign to galvanise an under-18 fanbase to try and control the narrative, right?
  - spywaregorilla 5y ago
    Seems pretty unreasonable to forbid acknowledging the ethical motivations of an action in a debate.
    - tehbeard 5y ago
      Seems pretty unreasonable to say I forbid it, when I said to just table that discussion for now, rather than letting that debate derail the talking point I wanted to discuss/highlight. There are no saints, and acting like Epic has the moral high ground because they fight for the little guy ( no, they fight for themselves) with what they did to do that is disingenuous at best.
      - spywaregorilla 5y ago
        It's disingenuous to say epic is "acting" like it has the moral high ground by just handwaving away discussion of the fact that they do, in fact, have the moral high ground.

naikrovek 5y ago

you should learn more about Tim Sweeney. he is all about store openness. read his rants about the windows 8 and windows 10 store(s) for example.

reificator 5y ago
Having not read them I would be shocked if they differed dramatically from the points Gabe Newell makes about those same stores. At the end of the day both companies are trying to avoid getting squeezed out by a platform-pack-in monopoly.
- naikrovek 5y ago
  well with a thick fuzzy qualifier like "differed dramatically" I can't say which side of that you'd end up on, but I can say that his views differ. they were different and compelling enough to get Microsoft to adopt most (maybe all, by now) of what he insisted upon.
wruza 5y ago
We are all about happiness and openness until sufficient market share, then the music changes. Steam is a long player, egs seems to be a fast one, that’s it. You have a point, but don’t humanize corps too much.
tehbeard 5y ago
While I have no love for Apple or any of the other billion dollar techbro places, Sweeney was the one running the corp. (Epic Games) that deliberately violated a contract (let's leave the discussion of is 30% ethical/justifable for a app store on the table for the moment), and then used a pre-planned ad campaign to galvanise an under-18 fanbase to try and control the narrative, right?
- spywaregorilla 5y ago
  Seems pretty unreasonable to forbid acknowledging the ethical motivations of an action in a debate.
  - tehbeard 5y ago
    Seems pretty unreasonable to say I forbid it, when I said to just table that discussion for now, rather than letting that debate derail the talking point I wanted to discuss/highlight. There are no saints, and acting like Epic has the moral high ground because they fight for the little guy ( no, they fight for themselves) with what they did to do that is disingenuous at best.
    - spywaregorilla 5y ago
      It's disingenuous to say epic is "acting" like it has the moral high ground by just handwaving away discussion of the fact that they do, in fact, have the moral high ground.