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Because competing with steam through exclusive deals and free games is not competing, it's racing to the bottom. I don't see any actual improvements or innovati

Because competing with steam through exclusive deals and free games is not competing, it's racing to the bottom. I don't see any actual improvements or innovations in the Epic Games Store, it looks like a pure money grab.

naikrovek 5y ago
sure, paying for games that you get to keep is a money grab... someone wanna explain this logic to me?
- reificator 5y ago
  Do you want to explain where "paying for games that you get to keep" entered this conversation? The logic the GP was using was that exclusivity deals and "the first hit is free" tactics are not ultimately in the customer's interest.
  - naikrovek 5y ago
    that's arguable, but those tactics are good for getting people to use your store. this is what ALL coupons and advertising is actually manipulating you to do, and EGS isn't doing anything different, there. the thing EGS IS doing differently, however, is being much more fair to creators of these games, and basing their fees on the actual costs they must incur, instead of just taking as much as they can, which is very much in the consumer's best interest. it's in everyone's best interest, because more profit for most game devs means more games from those devs, and more games are what consumers want.
dkjaudyeqooe 5y ago
Steam has a massive head start and Epic has huge barriers to entry. You can make a super nice launcher and it's not going make many inroads among those who already have all their games and friends on Steam. Epic is throwing money at the problem, but they have few other real options. Where is the money grab (especially in free games)? How is Epic the bad guy here when Steam is in a monopoly position? Epic should be commended for taking them on (and Apple and Google).
spywaregorilla 5y ago
The epic game store is vastly inferior to steam. But it frequently has high quality games available for free. And epic is pretty good to the indie game dev community. I see no reason not to go for it. Appeals to quality don't seem particularly meaningful when the price of both is 0.

naikrovek 5y ago

sure, paying for games that you get to keep is a money grab... someone wanna explain this logic to me?

reificator 5y ago
Do you want to explain where "paying for games that you get to keep" entered this conversation? The logic the GP was using was that exclusivity deals and "the first hit is free" tactics are not ultimately in the customer's interest.
- naikrovek 5y ago
  that's arguable, but those tactics are good for getting people to use your store. this is what ALL coupons and advertising is actually manipulating you to do, and EGS isn't doing anything different, there. the thing EGS IS doing differently, however, is being much more fair to creators of these games, and basing their fees on the actual costs they must incur, instead of just taking as much as they can, which is very much in the consumer's best interest. it's in everyone's best interest, because more profit for most game devs means more games from those devs, and more games are what consumers want.

dkjaudyeqooe 5y ago

Steam has a massive head start and Epic has huge barriers to entry. You can make a super nice launcher and it's not going make many inroads among those who already have all their games and friends on Steam. Epic is throwing money at the problem, but they have few other real options. Where is the money grab (especially in free games)? How is Epic the bad guy here when Steam is in a monopoly position? Epic should be commended for taking them on (and Apple and Google).

spywaregorilla 5y ago

The epic game store is vastly inferior to steam. But it frequently has high quality games available for free. And epic is pretty good to the indie game dev community. I see no reason not to go for it. Appeals to quality don't seem particularly meaningful when the price of both is 0.